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Title: List 1215 Trojan War
Post by: IanN on January 12, 2023, 11:30:00 AM
In list 1215 (Trojan War Achaean), Pylian chariots under Nestor have a note regarding dismounting as Loose Foot etc. but have no Dismountable characteristic.
To align with the Early Mycenaean chariots (on which they are based), on List 1203, should this note be removed ?
Title: Re: List 1215 Trojan War
Post by: iparker59 on January 12, 2023, 12:25:20 PM
Hi IanN,

I think this is if you regrade them they are "Dismountable".

IanP
Title: Re: List 1215 Trojan War
Post by: IanN on January 12, 2023, 12:56:14 PM
IanP

Sorry, disagree. There are two 'notes' regarding dismounting, one for Pylian chariots with long spear, and one for the chariots regraded as javelin armed. The first does not have the Dismountable characteristic, the second does.
It is the dismounting of the long spear armed charioteers that I am discussing
Title: Re: List 1215 Trojan War
Post by: Rino on January 12, 2023, 02:36:06 PM
Couldn't you dismount when facing a fortified camp and a few other specific cases?
Title: Re: List 1215 Trojan War
Post by: nikgaukroger on January 12, 2023, 02:40:56 PM
Cv and Cm but not Chariots IIRC.
Title: Re: List 1215 Trojan War
Post by: lionheartrjc on January 12, 2023, 05:09:10 PM
The note does not apply as the chariots cannot dismount. It shouldn't be there.

Richard
Title: Re: List 1215 Trojan War
Post by: IanN on January 12, 2023, 10:12:23 PM
Quote from: lionheartrjc on January 12, 2023, 05:09:10 PM
The note does not apply as the chariots cannot dismount. It shouldn't be there.

Richard

Thanks Richard
Title: Re: List 1215 Trojan War
Post by: badhabum on January 13, 2023, 09:04:38 AM
Quote from: lionheartrjc on January 12, 2023, 05:09:10 PM
The note does not apply as the chariots cannot dismount. It shouldn't be there.

Richard

As in general chariots may and can dismount, a better way would be to state that not regraded Pylian charioteers may not dismount just to avoid confusion
Title: Re: List 1215 Trojan War
Post by: nikgaukroger on January 13, 2023, 09:23:25 AM
No, the best way is as Richard states. The dismount characteristics are detailed below each line that can dismount (the new way troop notes are handled in the 2023 lists compared to previously) so that removing the excess line the issue is resolved.