Hi guys,
We played a game and had the following situation:
Units A and B (both cavalry) are fighting frontally. Unit C (also cavalry) just routed another unit and is supposed to pursue. The pursue and hit unit B in the flank, but it does not count as a flank charge, since the position they started in obviously disqualifies them from a flank charge.
1 - How do they align ? Do they align to the flank, like in Fig 2 ? If yes, do bases B3 and B4 count as fighting to the front for the purpose of weapons or do C1 and C2 just not receive the +4 bonus ? Since unit B are charging lancers, do they get the +2 bonus in the charge phase or not ? Again, not clear if they themselves count as fighting to the front or it's just that unit C does not get the flank bonus.
2 - If they do not align to the flank, how do they align ? Do they align in front, corner to corner and shove unit A so both fight frontally ? Or do they align corner to corner and just provide support in Melee for unit A ?
3 - If they do align to the flank, it is clear they do not get the flank charge bonus. But do they get the +2 bonus in Melee or does it still count as fighting to the front ?
Many Thanks,
Dan
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1. They don't align to the flank. Units which aren't flank charging but contact the flank cannot align to the flank. They just stay positioned as they are.
2. They do not get the flank bonus. Because you technically have two bases in contact frontally with one file, you can choose which of your bases does the fighting. The other may be a supporting file.
Hope that helps.
Thanks.
So I assume Unit C will hit in the charging phase and afterwards the yellow player will decide whether to fight with A3 or C1, with the other one supporting, correct ?
How about B3 ? Do they get Charging Lancer during the charge phase, since they were attacked frontally ?
Correct. Choose to fight with A3 or C1 and the other can support. In fact if you fight with C1 then C2 could be the support. You cannot however get both A3 and C2 as a support to C1 (the rules don't explicitly say this but it is implied).
B3 do get charging lancer as it is treated as a frontal combat.
I would say the majority of umpiring queries (as opposed to players calling the umpire because they cannot read and remember the rulebook) are due to aligning.
Richard
Thanks a lot, it is clearer now.
The reality point being that our bases are an approximation and if charged from the front some of the untis in the TuG being charged would have adjusted to face them frontally ... where as once behind the flank as a charge I consider such standard reaction impossible. Imagine a roman half legion tug as maniples ...
If the charge had resulted in C1 contacting B4 then C1 would fight B4 as a frontal contact in the charge phase, but what happens in the melee phase? Does A3 fight B3 & C1, with C2 in support, fight B4 (all as frontal contacts)?
A3 or C1 fights B3 (player who owns A3/C1 can choose). If A3 fights, C1 can be the supporting file (you treat C1 as if it was aligned with B3). If C1 fights, then C2 can be the supporting file.
Richard
Quote from: AandM on February 23, 2022, 01:48:44 AM
If the charge had resulted in C1 contacting B4 then C1 would fight B4 as a frontal contact in the charge phase, but what happens in the melee phase? Does A3 fight B3 & C1, with C2 in support, fight B4 (all as frontal contacts)?
Yes, if C1 contacts B4 then A3 fights B3 and C1 fights B4 (and C2 can support C1).
Richard
can the supporting file charge the unit in the flank on the next fase as it is within 1 MU ?
No, supporting files cannot charge 1BW. Only files that are not engaged in the combat in any way can charge the 1BW. (page 119 and glossary definition for engaged).