Their might be a pike problem in that list
The minimum pike is 16 greek mercenary pikes
The same list allows for up to 24 macedonian pikes
But the pike base limit is now set to 32 ! and 16 + 24 is 40 bases
Also is you want to take eumenes who may upgrade all 24 macedonian pikes to SUP, you must take ally generals . If Eumenes takes the 16 minimal bases but max the 2 ally generals is already has his 32 pikes .
Of course he may downgrade the greek pikes to hoplites but even so the minimum will be 32 hoplites which is costly enough and will severly limit Eumenes choices if he wants some SUP PIKE . Would it not be better to have Eumenes to use the veterans pikes "in lieu et place" of the greek mercenaries ? . So what is the intend for that army ?
Yes - this is an issue that has been pointed out to me. I had been considering the best approach but things in the New Year got in the way!
My intention is that allied contingents for Eumenes do not have to take compulsory troops as long as the army in its entirety conforms to the minimums. Can anyone see any issues with that?
If not I will add it as an official errata.
Richard
As long as it is clear that this is a specific exception for this list based on history and not a precedent for requests for other lists to get the same ;D
I am open to suggestions,
As an allied general cost less but need to take a minimum of mandatory units, I would keep the system as it is.
I would go along Nik's proposal for that particular list. It seems that Eumenes had a lot of pikes especially the veterans who were his specificity .
The minimum is 16 greek pikes for everyone why not except Eumenes who has to take the SUP version and the ally generals could have to take each 8 average pikes greek version ?
But still there are the mandatory xistophoroi ..and from memory, Eumenes had not that many mounted if compared to his opponents ( that's how he lost his last battle Gabiene )
Hope it helps
I don't believe that Eumenes had "a lot" of pikemen when compared to his opponents - pikemen seem to have been in short supply at that time for everyone (hence the new maximum).
Also, whilst it does not detract from your point on the minima for Eumenes when the allies are considered, he does not have to take the Superior pikemen - it is a "may" take up to 24. Of course you may well ask why wouldn't you, but it is important to remember that it is an option :)
Eumenes had an alliance with Antigenes and Teutamos, the commanders of the Macedonian Silver Shields and the Hypaspists, the best of the best, veterans of many campaigns, so he had let us say 2 TUGs of veteran SUP infantry .Sources do tell us that Eumenes had around 36000 infantry, heavy and light. But I found no real distribution of forces as I could not find a good translation for Diodorus BOOK XVIII or XIX . Sorry . Some other sources tell us there were 30000 heavies and 6.000 light but that is very unclear .
I am not that sure there was such a lack of pikement, but perhaps more a lack of macedonian pikemen yes !
By the way so what will it be for Eumenes ?
Commanding that army is a real challenge if he has to be all alone to take command of the mandatory UGs :D
So will it be 2 ally generals but with no mandatory minimum UGs to add to the mandatory ones and possibility to allow command as whished but of course when designing the army ?
Hy as it is an army I might use at Athens in may may I have an answer
Badhabum - thanks for raising this as it was an issue I had overlooked.
I have now added an official errata. Asiatic successor internal allied generals need only take either the Xystophoroi or Greek mercenaries in their allied contingent. They do not need to take both. Hopefully this makes the Eumenes option more playable.
Richard
OK frankly it helps but I had hoped for no mandatory UGs at all for the internal allied generals . If you look at Eumenes order of battle, he had the seleucid veterans so it would be nice to have those SUP pikes with you . But with mandatory sub generals and the added cost of mandatory UGs and the added UG to command, I fear it is still too cumbersome and it does not reflect Eumenes's ORBAT as we know it . Bot I'll try and sent you a list ..