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Mortem et Gloriam Army Lists => List Queries => Topic started by: IanN on October 27, 2021, 11:43:54 AM

Title: Late Republic Roman - Galatian Allies
Post by: IanN on October 27, 2021, 11:43:54 AM
In the Late Republican Roman list, Galatian allies are permitted 74-31 BCE.  Which list are these allies in, as the Galatian list finishes 62BCE.
Title: Re: Late Republic Roman - Galatian Allies
Post by: nikgaukroger on October 27, 2021, 12:20:52 PM
IMO just using the Galatian list would be the common sense approach. Lists cover when "proper" armies could be fielded and where an allied contingent appears outside those dates it is because only limited numbers would be available. A list note would, I guess, be nice of course.
Title: Re: Late Republic Roman - Galatian Allies
Post by: IanN on October 27, 2021, 02:52:22 PM
Nik - not sure that applies in this situation. The Galatians provided Roman legions (and cavalry) at Zela 47BCE - and Galatian list  does not include this option  ::)
Title: Re: Late Republic Roman - Galatian Allies
Post by: nikgaukroger on October 27, 2021, 03:00:16 PM
Ah, that is a bit different from a more general situation  ;D
Title: Re: Late Republic Roman - Galatian Allies
Post by: lionheartrjc on October 28, 2021, 07:54:04 AM
Quote from: IanN on October 27, 2021, 02:52:22 PM
Nik - not sure that applies in this situation. The Galatians provided Roman legions (and cavalry) at Zela 47BCE - and Galatian list  does not include this option  ::)

The term "Legion" does not mean a Roman legion, it just refers to a body of troops.  I can add a note indicating the Galatian list can be used as an ally list down to 31 BCE.

Richard
Title: Re: Late Republic Roman - Galatian Allies
Post by: IanN on October 28, 2021, 10:48:07 AM
From "Roman Republic at War"
Zela 47BC :  "Caesar's command consisted to two legions, the 36th and the badly depleted Legio VI. This force was acompanied by two additional Roman trained legions provided by Deitarus, king of Armenia, and tetrarch of Galatia"  (Julius Caesar, The Alexandrian War, 72-76)

This sounds less like 'Galatians' and more like Roman trained troops within an Armenian ally command - however the Roman trained option applies only for Tigranes and ends in  69BC.
If Galatian allies are permitted for Late Replican Rome, their end date should be 62 BCE when Galatia became a Roman proviince; and Roman trained infantry within Armenian list should extend to 47 BC.