Quote from: badhabum on March 24, 2021, 10:38:04 AM
I might perhaps be more specific when I write that I think LRR and early imperial armies are a bit too strongh :
They have impact weapon which is pretty strongh and puts them as some of the very best shok units in the game even is not DC or shatter
Being flexible they adapt to all type of terrain
being melee expert they always have a factor even if one rank deep
The have shield cover vs shooty armies
They are drilled
They have ORB ( an underestimated capacity ) and being impact weapon and melee expert it is quite a good defensive formation
And if that is still not enough ..
They mays have up to 24 SUP + 8 exceptionnal ..
So I agree romans were good at what they did, they had veteran armies but they already have very good charateristics which should enable them, in period to defeat most opponents . They should be able to have some SUP and in the case of the Xth legion exceptionnal ones ! But my message is : does all that not make them a bit unbalanced ? When I have responses such as :if we give short spear to lusitanian or if we give melee expert to other spaniard .. it would make spaniards too strongh ..I cannot help but wonder how the spaniards who resisted the romans for hundreds of years could be made too strongh an interesting debate 8)
And I do not say all spanish ( and other armies ) should have melee expert or be SUP ... just a bit more of them and the Lusitanian might have short spear ;D Well yes I did paint those damn Lusitanian ;D
Must say ia agree, most barbarians have few Sups and are usualy DEV chargers.
Versus the Romans only numbers and bad dice give them a slight chance. The Rumans will seek contact, protect flanks and punch through with the exceptionals and superiors.
There are not enough Average compulsory troops ine the roman Army.
I mus appologise as I poluted the 2021 lists planned changes.
So here we might discuss .
By the way , what os the difference between LRR and Spartans Classical Greeks.
The core army mays be SUP, melee experts and has LS ..YES
To me Spartans a really tought but contrary to the Romans they lack the helpfull toys as there SK are not that good, they lack the ability to deploy in rough terrain and so control it with quality .
When they get those toys, they loose the melee expert..so are much less dangerous .
The army has build in limitations so not as powerfull as LRR ( and who did win the wars ....ok rhe romans )