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Author's Section => Rules Queries and Clarifications => Topic started by: Ludwig on March 09, 2021, 12:20:53 AM

Title: Pressing forward
Post by: Ludwig on March 09, 2021, 12:20:53 AM
Played a 15mm MEG game where "pressing forward" became an issue.
A unit of close order foot in good going charged a unit of loose order foot that was also in good going. The charging unit moves forward 3 base widths which is its maximum move distance.
The charging unit was at aprox a 45 degree angle.
Element A of the charging unit was within 3 base withs  and contacted an element of the unit being charged. The charging unit was not fleet of foot.
The 2nd element of the charging unit moved its maximum 3 base with distance and did NOT contact unit being charged.
Can that 2nd charging element press forward up to an additional base width to contact a 2nd element of the unit being charged EVEN THOUGH it has already moved its maximum move of 3 base withs???
My opponent claimed it was legal....but I had never seen it done before.
Thanks and Stay Safe
Title: Re: Pressing forward
Post by: Jilu on March 09, 2021, 04:39:35 AM
Hello, yes it is legal, you can press forward up to 1 BW if at least one base contacted the enemy doing a legal charge move.

You can even do a press forward the next turn in the charge move if an annemy comes withing the 1BW during the moving face
Title: Re: Pressing forward
Post by: Francis Small on March 09, 2021, 05:00:33 AM
Agreed. Just happen to be combing through the rules that cover this - the relevant rule is on p. 131 L3.
Title: Re: Pressing forward
Post by: nikgaukroger on March 09, 2021, 07:26:20 AM
Quote from: Jilu on March 09, 2021, 04:39:35 AM
Hello, yes it is legal, you can press forward up to 1 BW if at least one base contacted the enemy doing a legal charge move.

Indeed you must press forward, it is not optional.


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You can even do a press forward the next turn in the charge move if an annemy comes withing the 1BW during the moving face

Not quite. Such a file may charge and could be subject to a forced charge if the conditions apply.
Title: Re: Pressing forward
Post by: Jilu on March 10, 2021, 03:52:27 PM
Quote from: nikgaukroger on March 09, 2021, 07:26:20 AM
Quote from: Jilu on March 09, 2021, 04:39:35 AM
Hello, yes it is legal, you can press forward up to 1 BW if at least one base contacted the enemy doing a legal charge move.

Indeed you must press forward, it is not optional.


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You can even do a press forward the next turn in the charge move if an annemy comes withing the 1BW during the moving face

Not quite. Such a file may charge and could be subject to a forced charge if the conditions apply.

if i remember well you may not press forward with an intercept and countercharge
Title: Re: Pressing forward
Post by: nikgaukroger on March 10, 2021, 04:26:51 PM
Correct. Pressing forward is something done by chargers when they move into contact enemy and interceptors and counterchargers do not move into contact with enemy  :)
Title: Re: Pressing forward
Post by: badhabum on May 31, 2021, 10:50:42 AM
Just read pressing forward once again ( pg 131 ) and I think some of us, out of habbit played it wrong.

The rule states : any files must press forward up to 1 BW from the line of first contact if they can contact any enemy directly ahead.

We often played this in the following way : if the file next to the file having contacted the enemy cannot hit a target within 1 MU, the whole TUG "stops" . But there are cases when another file along the line could hit an enemy and we did not do it

I do not know if I am clear enough  but imagine a long hoplite line 4 wide, the rightmost file hits the enemy but not the second file next to hit that has no enemy within 1 MU, neither the 3rd file but the 4th has an enemy within 1 BW . We did play it would not press forward as the other files near the impact pointcould not hit someone ..but the wording of the rule is "any files" so I fear we will have to correct our way of gaming it  8)