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Mortem et Gloriam Players forum => Modelling and Eye Candy => Topic started by: Nathan on January 15, 2021, 02:51:31 PM

Title: Basing dilemma - advice please
Post by: Nathan on January 15, 2021, 02:51:31 PM
I've just finished painting 16 Late Roman cataphracts in 15mm, intending to follow the preferred rules standard of 4 to a base. The problem is that they are rather wide and the only way I can fit them on is by staggering them so they can overlap and are touching which looks OKish from the front but silly from above.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50838252146_2b7865027a_b.jpg)
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50838252016_98962cce6a_b.jpg)

On the other hand 3 to a base looks too open from the front and is just the same as my normal loose order heavy cavalry. On the plus size, for painting 2 more figures, I could then have a 6 base unit.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50838251846_af26642e23_b.jpg)
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50838252296_da5d52641a_b.jpg)

Have others had this issue and what would you advise?

Title: Re: Basing dilemma - advice please
Post by: nikgaukroger on January 15, 2021, 02:59:18 PM
4 to a base has a certain "heft" which can be nice, but if you're going to think they look a bit silly every time you look at them will you be happy?

Figures are clearly catafracts so there should be no confusion if you base them 3 to a base and as you say you end up with more bases for your money  8)  Personally I do mine 3 to a base retty much for that reason.

Lovely paint job BTW - which figure manufacturer?
Title: Re: Basing dilemma - advice please
Post by: PUNCH on January 15, 2021, 05:24:53 PM
nice paintwork!

like Nick said: "no basing problem, they are cataphracts! no confusion ;)

mine are also 3 per base.

(https://i.imgur.com/s5FkHjPh.jpg)

PUNCH
Title: Re: Basing dilemma - advice please
Post by: Nathan on January 15, 2021, 05:35:02 PM
Thanks very much for the replies.

I do like the massed effect of 4 to a base but with these figures it just looks too crowded. I was leaning towards 3 to a base and it is good to hear that others are doing that without any problems.

The figures are a mix. The riders are the old Asgard / Table Top Games / Alternative Armies figures. I bought most of them back in the very early 80s from Bob at TTG and they languished at the back of a cupboard since then. Unfortunately the Asgard horses have ludicrously short legs so I mostly used Minifigs with a couple from Gladiator. I've replaced the lances with brass rod and foil and (to get more variety) filed some of the cloaks to different shapes; removed the helmet plumes off a couple of riders; bent some horse necks to the side and re-shaped or replaced some tails.

My only problem now is that one of those two spare figures has gone AWOL! I suspect the cat.

Title: Re: Basing dilemma - advice please
Post by: nikgaukroger on January 15, 2021, 07:33:05 PM
The cat has your cat  :o
Title: Re: Basing dilemma - advice please
Post by: SteveO on January 15, 2021, 10:26:08 PM
FWIW Nathan I prefer your four to a base option. Your figures look great either way but four to a base gives a real sense of mass and I don't think they look silly from above at all. After all they are horses not robots.
Title: Re: Basing dilemma - advice please
Post by: Lanceflint on January 16, 2021, 10:45:25 AM
I totally agree with SteveO.
But they are yours and you need to be happy with them!
Lance.
Title: Re: Basing dilemma - advice please
Post by: Rino on January 16, 2021, 11:44:43 AM
Very nice mini and wonderfully painted.
I would opt for 3 mini per base as their is no doubt they are cat.
You can base then unevenly so they could look more « packed ».
Title: Re: Basing dilemma - advice please
Post by: LorenzoMele on January 16, 2021, 01:59:11 PM
Hi
Choose what you like more. Personally I prefer cataphracts go 4 on each base, but is a matter of tastes as long this will not create game problems, and I think this is not the case.
Rgds
Lorenzo
Title: Re: Basing dilemma - advice please
Post by: Nathan on January 16, 2021, 05:45:39 PM
Thanks very much for all the feedback.

In the end I've gone with 4 to a base with the figures staggered a bit more front to back so they don't seem quite so crowded. I'll post up some pictures of the finished article once I've finished painting the bases.
Title: Re: Basing dilemma - advice please
Post by: Nathan on January 20, 2021, 08:47:35 PM
I've finished the basing for these now and written them up with some more pictures on my blog.

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-HDojT77nzoU/YAiTQbHUPrI/AAAAAAAABI4/0TNFwKy1880XKZw1UZ92f8g9UQtjDCiIwCLcBGAsYHQ/s1200/Finished%2Bfront.jpg)

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-x3zorrnzA4U/YAiTRkuSksI/AAAAAAAABJE/ApPhCKVgOogUMhg_HUdN1cl3zb4-sB70QCLcBGAsYHQ/s1200/Finished%2Bquarter.jpg)

Thanks again for the helpful advice.

https://smallitalianwars.blogspot.com/2021/01/late-roman-cataphracts.html
Title: Re: Basing dilemma - advice please
Post by: PUNCH on January 20, 2021, 11:01:28 PM
Awesome!

congratulations!

PUNCH
Title: Re: Basing dilemma - advice please
Post by: SteveO on January 21, 2021, 12:38:16 AM
They look great!
Title: Re: Basing dilemma - advice please
Post by: Dru on January 22, 2021, 11:37:46 PM
Wow these look great.

I like the 4/base.

Really there is 3 ways you could do it:

i) 4/base (my preference but I get they dont always fit).
ii) 3/base - If doing this, while they are clearly equipped as Cats, I would advocate having a Close marker and plonk that down with the unit so your opponent always knows and its transparent throughout the game, since they ideally should be 4/base as Close.
iii) mix - mostly 3/base but do the front as 4/base. That makes it clear it is Close but saves on figures/cramming for the rest of the bases. Wouldnt need a marker then.