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Mortem et Gloriam Army Lists => List Queries => Topic started by: rage13 on September 01, 2020, 01:35:31 PM

Title: Italian Wars troops
Post by: rage13 on September 01, 2020, 01:35:31 PM
Hi, looking at The Italian Wars Army lists i have a couple of questions about how some troops work or should be depicted.

1. If Swiss and/or Landsknects are upgraded then they are depicted as a rank of handguns  and 3 ranks of pikes. If they shoot then presumably they go down a colour as they are only 1 rank deep but when they fight they fight as 4 ranks of likes - is that right?

2. Presumably any handguns folded into the pike count towards any minimum of maximums in the army lists?

3. How does the late Spanish colunella  work? What i have read suggests it was a mix of handgun, pike & sword & buckler men - so should it be depicted that way? As everyone in the colunella has firearm i assume they fire at full effect and then fight as 3 ranks of pike
Title: Re: Italian Wars troops
Post by: Geoff on December 11, 2021, 09:09:45 AM
Just resurrecting this question as I have the same one. Thinking of Late Swiss.
Title: Re: Italian Wars troops
Post by: lionheartrjc on December 11, 2021, 09:24:30 AM
To answer the questions

1. Yes - downgrade if shooting in 1 rank.  Normal ranks for fighting.  They are given the Pike melee weapon cand add the Shooting Skill and Weapon.

2. Yes.

3.  The firearm, pike and (optional) melee expert is there to represent the combination of handguns, pike and sword & buckler.  From a game effect, Pike & Melee Expert is an interesting combination, slight offset by the three ranks.   Quite scary to charge, you get shot at (with potential slowing effects) and then fight pike with melee expert....

Richard
Title: Re: Italian Wars troops
Post by: Geoff on December 11, 2021, 12:15:35 PM
Thanks Richard :)