Britcon.
August 9th, 10th & 11th
Any list from 1066 onwards (including armies valid in 1066) drawn from list sets : Arabia, Byzantine, Frankia, Eastern European Steppes, Holy Roman Empire, Crusades, Frankatoria, House of Osman, House of Valois, Kings in the North, Ostsiedling, Reconquista... and now Italian Wars
List Checker - Alasdair Harley
Lists by August 1st please.
TABLE SIZES180mm x 120mm tables (ish), being 45 Base Widths x 30 Base Widths.
DURATIONAll games will be 2hrs 45 minutes plus a 15 minute variable.
GAMES TIMINGSix game as follows:
Friday: Rolling start from 6pm (or sooner if you wish), last start 7:30pm. Last bound called around 11pm
Saturday: 9.00am - 12.00, 13.00pm-16.00pm, 16.30am-19:30pm.
Sunday: 9:00am - 12.00, 13.00-16.00pm
http://www.bhgs.org.uk/britcon---morte-et-gloria.html (http://www.bhgs.org.uk/britcon---morte-et-gloria.html)[/list]
Still my wedding anniversary, one year I might get to play!
Britcon 2019 is post 1066 folks. Skulls, just before it is open.
So post 1066 or open?
All book?
Competition entry not open yet. Still got 2018 comp info on entry.
The info is correct for the 2019 event.
It should go on sale in a couple of weeks
Quote from: BHGS on January 03, 2019, 07:57:09 PM
The info is correct for the 2019 event.
It should go on sale in a couple of weeks
It'll go off the shelves pretty fast this year I imagine!
Tim, Is it possible to announce on here when they go on sale?
Thanks
You can rest assured that the BHGS multi-channel marketing machine is poised and waiting to go...
YES :) I got permission to attend britcon
Me too - ya beauty!
Quote from: Rino on December 23, 2018, 12:55:14 PM
So post 1066 or open?
All book?
On britcon website http://www.bhgs.org.uk/britcon---morte-et-gloria.html
They state « post 1066 » with restrictions to certain books.
Is that definitive ? I need to prioritize painting and I wouldn't end up with some painting note done because it switches 2 weeks prior event.
Thx for confirming !
Restrictions on some books ...which ones I also need to know for my painting program
QuoteThe info is correct for the 2019 event.
THEME
Any list Post 1066 from Arabia, Byzantine, Frankia, Eastern European Steppes, Holy Roman Empire, Crusades, Frankatoria, House of Osman, House of Valois, Kings in the North, Ostsiedling, Reconquista
Just for clarity, does Post 1066 include 1066 or not?
Richard
Including 1066 so we French could invade UK!!!!
Thx for confirming !!
But the french did invade britain also latter and managed to controll a big part of it for 2 years
See Louis VIII 1216-1217
That's the possible root of the Robin Hood legend
So you see, after 1066, the french still invaded Britain
Last French invasion was 1797 in Pembroke, Wales
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Fishguard (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Fishguard)...
It was sscared off by a bunch of Welsh Women in traditional dress!
Quote from: mad lemmey on February 03, 2019, 07:41:33 PM
Last French invasion was 1797 in Pembroke, Wales
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Fishguard (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Fishguard)...
It was sscared off by a bunch of Welsh Women in traditional dress!
Understandable
I'm booked in now for the usual jaunt in Manchester.
S
Quote from: Rino on February 03, 2019, 06:33:31 PM
Including 1066 so we French could invade UK!!!!
Thx for confirming !!
You could try, but we all know you would cock it up !!
Quote from: Simon Meg-Meister on February 04, 2019, 03:09:01 PM
I'm booked in now for the usual jaunt in Manchester.
S
Me too .... and skulls. I was sorely tempted to REG it but I'm really enjoying ancients again with these excellent MEG rules. Hoping for some of my pals from south of the wall to pop up for the basho in Perth in October too.
Shaping up to be another great MEGGING year!
HH
I just enlisted !
See you there!
Cheers!
HELP
After my epic fialure to secure a Warfare ticket. Wheredo I sign up for this?
Ray
BHGS Website http://www.bhgs.org.uk/britcon---how-to-enter.html
Still 19 tickets left
Thanks
Booked I think. The Britcon site did trigger a security alert on my account
The student type accommodation at the Pendulum Hotel is open for business folks. I booked yesterday at £42 per night including the excellent all you can eat breakfast.
Hunter
Quote from: Hunter on March 07, 2019, 12:04:00 PM
The student type accommodation at the Pendulum Hotel is open for business folks. I booked yesterday at £42 per night including the excellent all you can eat breakfast.
Hunter
I'm obviously challenged! Where can I find that ?
Quote from: rayfredjohn on March 07, 2019, 10:58:25 PM
Quote from: Hunter on March 07, 2019, 12:04:00 PM
The student type accommodation at the Pendulum Hotel is open for business folks. I booked yesterday at £42 per night including the excellent all you can eat breakfast.
Hunter
I'm obviously challenged! Where can I find that ?
Cunningly hidden on the Britcon "venue and directions (http://www.bhgs.org.uk/britcon---venue--directions.html)" page on the BHGS website...?
Quote from: BHGS on March 07, 2019, 11:11:18 PM
Quote from: rayfredjohn on March 07, 2019, 10:58:25 PM
Quote from: Hunter on March 07, 2019, 12:04:00 PM
The student type accommodation at the Pendulum Hotel is open for business folks. I booked yesterday at £42 per night including the excellent all you can eat breakfast.
Hunter
I'm obviously challenged! Where can I find that ?
Cunningly hidden on the Britcon "venue and directions (http://www.bhgs.org.uk/britcon---venue--directions.html)" page on the BHGS website...?
Even more cunning. It's a page that doesn't seem to load on an iPhone
The details of the hotels etc seem to load on the BHGS phone...
The website is build using Weebly, which is a web-based content management system so it "should" be mobile-friendly but we'll have a loko and see if there is anything odd on that particular page.
Hi ray
Just email Natalie at WestonHall@iqstudent.com or Natalie.Keogh@iqstudent.com
Seemples. See you there mate.
Hunter
Train and accommodation booked. Sinders is gong to the ball!
Hunter
So OPEN or POST 1066 ??? there seem to be a bit of discussion ...
I thought it had been concluded that is was 1066 and thereafter.
Alasdair said 1066+ on WATsapp earlier. List of allowable armies is on the link.
Will needs to Edit the first post on Britcon. It still says open all books !!!!
The info we have been given and posted on the BHGS website is as follows:
THEME
Any list from 1066 onwards (including armies valid in 1066) drawn from list sets : Arabia, Byzantine, Frankia, Eastern European Steppes, Holy Roman Empire, Crusades, Frankatoria, House of Osman, House of Valois, Kings in the North, Ostsiedling, Reconquista... and now Italian Wars
DURATION
All games will be 2hrs 45 minutes plus a 15 minute variable.
GAMES TIMING
Six game as follows:
Friday: Rolling start from 6pm (or sooner if you wish), last start 7:30pm. Last bound called around 11pm
Saturday: 9.00am - 12.00, 13.00pm-16.00pm, 16.30am-19:30pm.
Sunday: 9:00am - 12.00, 13.00-16.00pm
The Friday night game is played until time is called unless both players agree otherwise.
The Saturday evening game may start earlier if all 4th round matches are concluded early.
thats really short games
I agree. We have to standardise on 3 hours minimum. If not, army selection will narrow down.
IMO there is no need for a variable time bit for MeG. That was a thing back in the DBM day (and maybe other rules these days) when playing for a draw could make sense, not really an issue with MeG IMO.
If there is a 3 hour slot just play to 3 hours - that seems a good time for a MeG game in my experience.
Quote from: nikgaukroger on June 22, 2019, 07:49:01 PM
IMO there is no need for a variable time bit for MeG. That was a thing back in the DBM day (and maybe other rules these days) when playing for a draw could make sense, not really an issue with MeG IMO.
If there is a 3 hour slot just play to 3 hours - that seems a good time for a MeG game in my experience.
Happy with that.
Good for players with lots of experience. I would not try that in Belgium and France . Most players need 3:30 or more as we play less games and less tournaments here . It's just a fact .
Current runners and riders:
Jacques Wilputte None Mortem et Gloriam 15mm
Lance Flint Farnborough Mortem et Gloriam 15mm
Robin Spence Bournemouth Mortem et Gloriam 15mm
Laurence Donohoe Bournemouth Mortem et Gloriam 15mm
Simon Hall Mortem et Gloriam 15mm
Richard Jeffrey-Cook Farnborough Mortem et Gloriam 15mm
Hunter Hope Perth Mortem et Gloriam 15mm
Niall Taylor Taylor Perth Mortem et Gloriam 15mm
John Munro Perth Mortem et Gloriam 15mm
Peter Entwistle Ribble Warriors Mortem et Gloriam 15mm
Renaud Cordier Other Mortem et Gloriam 15mm
Stephen Stead Reigate Mortem et Gloriam 15mm
Raymond Duggins Reigate Mortem et Gloriam 15mm
Gilles Wielgosz None Mortem et Gloriam 15mm
Jason Broomer Reigate Mortem et Gloriam 15mm
Serge Adeline Other Mortem et Gloriam 15mm
David Parish Reigate Mortem et Gloriam 15mm
Stewart Riddick Perth Mortem et Gloriam 15mm
Peter Reilly None Mortem et Gloriam 15mm
Paul Cummins MKWS (Milton Keynes) Mortem et Gloriam 15mm
Alasdair Harley Renatio et Gloriam Beta Event
Nigel Emsen Bournemouth Renatio et Gloriam Beta Event
Matthew Poole Other Renatio et Gloriam Beta Event
4 players out of 20 from Perth Wargames Club. That is, well, unbelievable. Shokeronee!!
Bring it on ......
Any list from 1066 onwards (including armies valid in 1066) drawn from list sets : Arabia, Byzantine, Frankia, Eastern European Steppes, Holy Roman Empire, Crusades, Frankatoria, House of Osman, House of Valois, Kings in the North, Ostsiedling, Reconquista... and now Italian Wars
List Checker - Hunter Hope
Lists by August 1st latest please. The sooner I get them the sooner you get your runners and riders.
I am open for business now as my list has been lodged with Alasdair.
HH
Riders as of the 4th of July!
David Parish Reigate
Gilles Wielgosz Immortels de Paris Ouest
Hunter Hope Perth
Jacques Wilputte Belgium
Jason Broomer Reigate
John Munro Perth
Lance Flint Farnborough
Laurence Donohoe Bournemouth
Niall Taylor Perth
Nicholas Gaukroger Reigate
Paul Cummins Milton Keynes
Peter Entwistle Ribble Warriors
Peter Reilly Wirral
Raymond Duggins Reigate
Renaud Cordier
Richard Jeffrey-Cook Farnborough
Robin Spence Bournemouth
Serge Adeline
Simon Hall
Stephen Stead Reigate
Stewart Riddick Perth
Hi, I m also from immortels de paris Ouest
Same as Gilles.
Cheers.
Renaud
I registred the 2nd July ,and not see my name on the riders list ?
Frédéric Dufour
Quote from: dufred on July 04, 2019, 02:35:38 PM
I registred the 2nd July ,and not see my name on the riders list ?
Frédéric Dufour
Ne worry pas Frederic. I bet Tim still has to update the list.
HH
Quote from: Rino on July 04, 2019, 12:59:07 PM
Hi, I m also from immortels de paris Ouest
Same as Gilles.
Cheers.
Renaud
Merci Renaud. I will make sure our list is updated.
HH
Reasonable turn out but need the fence sitters to enter
Of course numbers are impacted by MEgR switchers.
Quote from: marshalney2000 on July 07, 2019, 08:26:21 AM
Of course numbers are impacted by MEgR switchers.
Only 3 listed above - will it be viable? :(
What, all four of them?
The player list on the website is dated 26/6. I don't update it daily ::)
The current list of MeG players is as follows.
MeG Ancients
Jacques Wilputte
Lance Flint
Robin Spence
Laurence Donohoe
Richard Jeffrey-Cook
Hunter Hope
Niall Taylor Taylor
John Munro
Peter Entwistle
Renaud Cordier
Stephen Stead
Raymond Duggins
Gilles WIELGOSZ
Jason Broomer
serge adeline
David Parish
stewart riddick
Peter Reilly
Paul Cummins
Nicholas Gaukroger
DUFOUR Frédéric
MeGR
alasdair harley
Nigel Emsen
Matthew Poole
Simon Hall
Last year there were 22 MeG players, including 1 overseas player. As of today we have 21 registered in MeG and 4 in MeGR, including 5 overseas players in the AM pool, so the number of UK participants is pretty exactly on par with last year, with a month of potential extra bookings yet to come. Alasdair has assured me there are more R players to squeeze out of the woodwork and make the event viable - which I'm sure Mr Broomer will be happy to hear!
Just for you guys to know : the belgian and french players always meet during tournaments in Belgium and France. So we would appreciate not to meet to quickly 8)
Quote from: badhabum on July 09, 2019, 07:53:50 PM
Just for you guys to know : the belgian and french players always meet during tournaments in Belgium and France. So we would appreciate not to meet to quickly 8)
+1
...... and I am sure that the English players are pretty used to playing each other too - as are the Scots!
I would therefore imagine that it will not be beyond our collective wit to make sure there are no blue on blue match ups early on in the basho.
Looking forwards to it already mes amis.
HH
Quote from: badhabum on July 09, 2019, 07:53:50 PM
Just for you guys to know : the belgian and french players always meet during tournaments in Belgium and France. So we would appreciate not to meet to quickly 8)
The BHS Computer* usually tries to keep players from the same club/country apart, at least in the early rounds - and also in later rounds sometimes if they are both towards the bottom of the drawn and hence appear unlikely to unduly trouble the engravers... 8)
(...whether the BHGS Computer can cope with the Britcon MeG scoring system this year is a separate issue. In previous years our understanding has been that the way MeG games are scored is that if you are called
Alasdair you always get 15, and everyone else gets a random number each round that falls somewhere between 3 and 15... but as the only Alasdair we are aware of so far is hoping to play MeGR this year we may need the real scoring system explaining to us in hexdecimal before we can run the draw software this time around!).
;D
There you have it folks, straight from the horses mouth - maximum "non pals match ups" possible at all times consistent with a rigourous challenge for the podium placers.
Now that is cleared up please do what you can to convince any waiverers to join us in the BHGS biggie that is Britcon. It's a fantastic experience and once a buddy goes they are invariably hooked. I think this is my 12th Britcon and I still get the same tingle on the way to the basho.
The more the merrier!
HH
I made the same request successfully last year, so will make it again this one too.
Can the games be extended a bit? Potentially one hour and 46 minutes is really not enough time for a lot of players to reach a conclusion, which is a shame seeing how far some travel and the commitment that is shown.
Of course some armies may not be all that large considering the period, which should help.
Regards, Lance.
Quote from: Lanceflint on July 10, 2019, 02:21:59 PM
I made the same request successfully last year, so will make it again this one too.
Can the games be extended a bit? Potentially one hour and 46 minutes is really not enough time for a lot of players to reach a conclusion, which is a shame seeing how far some travel and the commitment that is shown.
Of course some armies may not be all that large considering the period, which should help.
Regards, Lance.
No way is "one hour and 46 minutes" long enough as Lance says. 3 hours minimum. Prefers 3 hours with 15 minutes variable.
Ray
Quote from: rayfredjohn on July 10, 2019, 03:03:56 PM
Quote from: Lanceflint on July 10, 2019, 02:21:59 PM
I made the same request successfully last year, so will make it again this one too.
Can the games be extended a bit? Potentially one hour and 46 minutes is really not enough time for a lot of players to reach a conclusion, which is a shame seeing how far some travel and the commitment that is shown.
Of course some armies may not be all that large considering the period, which should help.
Regards, Lance.
No way is "one hour and 46 minutes" long enough as Lance says. 3 hours minimum. Prefers 3 hours with 15 minutes variable.
Ray
+1 otherwise we will have suicidal charge all tournament long
Quote from: Rino on July 10, 2019, 03:05:30 PM
Quote from: rayfredjohn on July 10, 2019, 03:03:56 PM
Quote from: Lanceflint on July 10, 2019, 02:21:59 PM
I made the same request successfully last year, so will make it again this one too.
Can the games be extended a bit? Potentially one hour and 46 minutes is really not enough time for a lot of players to reach a conclusion, which is a shame seeing how far some travel and the commitment that is shown.
Of course some armies may not be all that large considering the period, which should help.
Regards, Lance.
No way is "one hour and 46 minutes" long enough as Lance says. 3 hours minimum. Prefers 3 hours with 15 minutes variable.
Ray
+1 otherwise we will have suicidal charge all tournament long
Maybe Hunter wants that :-\
Britcon.
August 9th, 10th & 11th
Any list from 1066 onwards (including armies valid in 1066) drawn from list sets : Arabia, Byzantine, Frankia, Eastern European Steppes, Holy Roman Empire, Crusades, Frankatoria, House of Osman, House of Valois, Kings in the North, Ostsiedling, Reconquista... and now Italian Wars
List Checker - Hunter Hope
Lists by August 1st at the latest please.
TABLE SIZES
180mm x 120mm tables (ish), being 45 Base Widths x 30 Base Widths.
DURATION
All games will be 2hrs 45 minutes plus a 15 minute variable.
GAMES TIMING
Six game as follows:
Friday: Rolling start from 6pm (or sooner if you wish), last start 7:30pm. Last bound called around 11pm
Saturday: 9.00am - 12.00, 13.00pm-16.00pm, 16.30am-19:30pm.
Sunday: 9:00am - 12.00, 13.00-16.00pm
DURATION
All games will be 2hrs 45 minutes plus a 15 minute variable.
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Given most of us just crack on when the draw is known most games will have around 3 hours to play with. In practice my experience is that most games are over in about 2 and a half hours.
One of the great attractions of MEG is a reasonable table top time and usually decisive games.
If anyone knows of anyone who might take part with a bit of persuasion then please do encourage them - its a great weekend away and we are a pretty sociable bunch!
HH
Quote from: Hunter on July 10, 2019, 04:06:22 PM
DURATION
All games will be 2hrs 45 minutes plus a 15 minute variable.
To repeat myself - variable not needed for MeG, just make in 3 hours.
So in the first 3 rounds I won't be playing anyone from England. Is that correct?
Quote from: nikgaukroger on July 10, 2019, 04:39:35 PM
Quote from: Hunter on July 10, 2019, 04:06:22 PM
DURATION
All games will be 2hrs 45 minutes plus a 15 minute variable.
To repeat myself - variable not needed for MeG, just make in 3 hours.
Si's call but I think that might be a good one.
HH
Quote from: rayfredjohn on July 10, 2019, 04:59:55 PM
So in the first 3 rounds I won't be playing anyone from England. Is that correct?
You wish. Just clubmates.
HH
Quote from: Hunter on July 10, 2019, 05:56:20 PM
Quote from: rayfredjohn on July 10, 2019, 04:59:55 PM
So in the first 3 rounds I won't be playing anyone from England. Is that correct?
You wish. Just clubmates.
HH
But we have 1 tournament a month in England and, with the exception of Lance, all the English players go to them all.
Yep - hence your high rankings compared with us poor provincials.
HH
The rankings as proof. Crikey only one non-Englander in the whole top 25 - the redoubtable John Munro! I do hope you Lords of the Rankings will take it easy on us lower rankers at Britcon! Me and my French, Belgian and other Scots pals don't even make the top 25 - go easy on us please.
1 Alasdair Harley
2 Jason Broomer
3 Laurence Donohoe
4 Lee Sanders
5 Richard Jeffrey-Cook
6 Nik Gaukroger
7 Simon Elliot
8 Ray Duggins
9 Will Denham
10 Adrian Nash
11 Matthew Poole
12 Lance Flint
13 Dave Parish
14 Paul Cummins
15 Stephen Stead
16 John Munro
17 Simon Hall
18 Sam Street
19 Bruce Rollet
20 Robin Spence
21 Peter Entwistle
22 Nigel Emsen
23 James Hamilton
24 Pete Simpson
25 Simon Clarke
Mercy for the Belgian, French and Scots 8, mercy I say! No mercy for John though as he is too highly ranked for that.
HH
Come off it Hunter. You have only played in a few competitions. If you had played in four you would be much higher.
Errrrr
As I said, can the nationalities avoid playing each other in the early rounds.
Quote from: Hunter on July 09, 2019, 09:24:07 PM
...... and I am sure that the English players are pretty used to playing each other too - as are the Scots!
I would therefore imagine that it will not be beyond our collective wit to make sure there are no blue on blue match ups early on in the basho.
Looking forwards to it already mes amis.
HH
as you said erlier
Quote from: rayfredjohn on July 10, 2019, 09:49:02 PM
Errrrr
As I said, can the nationalities avoid playing each other in the early rounds.
Making France an Belgium both "clubs" for the purposes of the draw software would achieve the key objective.
I believe all of the Scottish contingent play under the Perth club banner anyway.
An odd number of extra signups would be ideal so we can avoid any byes - as would at least 2 more for the MeGR to get that up to the threshold of 6.
Quote from: BHGS on July 11, 2019, 09:22:05 AM
Quote from: rayfredjohn on July 10, 2019, 09:49:02 PM
Errrrr
As I said, can the nationalities avoid playing each other in the early rounds.
Making France an Belgium both "clubs" for the purposes of the draw software would achieve the key objective.
I believe all of the Scottish contingent play under the Perth club banner anyway.
makes a lot of sense
Sorry to be so dense Ray -it's my age. Are you throwing out the option of treating England as a "club" and France, Belgium and Scotland together as a "club" in order to maximise the number of fresh player match ups on Friday and Saturday?
HH
Quote from: Hunter on July 11, 2019, 09:49:56 AM
Sorry to be so dense Ray -it's my age. Are you throwing out the option of treating England as a "club" and France, Belgium and Scotland together as a "club" in order to maximise the number of fresh player match ups on Friday and Saturday?
HH
yes, throwing it out there buddy
Beware Hunter, a trap is being baited. The English Meisters just want to make sure they get an easy game in the first few rounds against us virginal Scots who do not fully appreciate all their Sassenach tricks and ploys carefully nurtured in the Southern cut throat tournament scene. Meanwhile we sit up here in the North waiting to be plucked when we travel South to the big tournament scene.
Quote from: marshalney2000 on July 11, 2019, 11:33:18 AM
Beware Hunter, a trap is being baited. The English Meisters just want to make sure they get an easy game in the first few rounds against us virginal Scots who do not fully appreciate all their Sassenach tricks and ploys carefully nurtured in the Southern cut throat tournament scene. Meanwhile we sit up here in the North waiting to be plucked when we travel South to the big tournament scene.
errrrrrr, no. Not played a Jock, Frog or Belgy since starting MeG last year. Played a Septic at Skulls. On the 40k Tournament scene I rarely played a Roast Beef as there were so many johnny foreigners around.
vive la difference
Raymondo De Dugganville
Quote from: marshalney2000 on July 11, 2019, 11:33:18 AM
Beware Hunter, a trap is being baited. The English Meisters just want to make sure they get an easy game in the first few rounds against us virginal Scots who do not fully appreciate all their Sassenach tricks and ploys carefully nurtured in the Southern cut throat tournament scene. Meanwhile we sit up here in the North waiting to be plucked when we travel South to the big tournament scene.
You did say "plucked"? Phew!
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errrrrrr, no. Not played a Jock, Frog or Belgy since starting MeG last year. Played a Septic at Skulls. On the 40k Tournament scene I rarely played a Roast Beef as there were so many johnny foreigners around.
vive la difference
Raymondo De Dugganville
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Bonjour Raymondo le Grande
I'd have no problem with being pooled with those noble nations to face the might of Engerland.
Frederic D will just need to play really badly so that we get our return match near the end - I owe him a 15-2 don't you know! Took the wheels right off my barrow in our first game a Skulls. I never really recovered. Damn shame really. I had such high hopes. I coulda been a contender ................ still lets not dwell on that since its ancient history .................. sniff, sniff!
Si's call.
HH
None of the Asian armies, nor the African armies seem to be included in the period, despite the fact that a few of them fought in Western Europe (the Mongols for example invaded Poland and Hungary and reached Croatia). Any reason why they have been excluded?
Also, do allies have to come from the same list sets (obviously the date restriction still applies)?
Richard
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You'd need to ask Alasdair on that one ..
I think Si is the competition "owner" - even though he's now with Alasdair in the REG pool.
FWIW I guess you need to draw a line somewhere to create a theme but I imagine that Si will be keen to allow as many armies as possible in the interests of fun diversity without significantly compromising the theme and having regard to the fact that some basho goers will have made their pick - maybe bought and painted it too - on a certain set of assumptions.
My tuppence is a preference to stick to the books tabled and allow any allies within date range but at my age and disposition this is not one of the few things that would transport me to the barricades.
HH
Quote from: Hunter on July 13, 2019, 11:06:35 AM
I think Si is the competition "owner" - even though he's now with Alasdair in the REG pool.
FWIW I guess you need to draw a line somewhere to create a theme but I imagine that Si will be keen to allow as many armies as possible in the interests of fun diversity without significantly compromising the theme and having regard to the fact that some basho goers will have made their pick - maybe bought and painted it too - on a certain set of assumptions.
My tuppence is a preference to stick to the books tabled and allow any allies within date range but at my age and disposition this is not one of the few things that would transport me to the barricades.
HH
Or transportation to the colonies as another option.
Quote from: Hunter on July 13, 2019, 11:06:35 AM
I think Si is the competition "owner" - even though he's now with Alasdair in the REG pool.
FWIW I guess you need to draw a line somewhere to create a theme but I imagine that Si will be keen to allow as many armies as possible in the interests of fun diversity without significantly compromising the theme and having regard to the fact that some basho goers will have made their pick - maybe bought and painted it too - on a certain set of assumptions.
My tuppence is a preference to stick to the books tabled and allow any allies within date range but at my age and disposition this is not one of the few things that would transport me to the barricades.
HH
+1
it seems late to be meddling with the pdfs allowed. I'm not going to have a hissy fit if you change things at this late stage but it will be another one of those little things I bring up again and again and again. Like that time Simon changed the Kiel rules half way through a tournament or when RJC banned a move he used on me after the game ended.
Quote from: Hunter on July 13, 2019, 11:06:35 AM
I think Si is the competition "owner" - even though he's now with Alasdair in the REG pool.
FWIW I guess you need to draw a line somewhere to create a theme but I imagine that Si will be keen to allow as many armies as possible in the interests of fun diversity without significantly compromising the theme and having regard to the fact that some basho goers will have made their pick - maybe bought and painted it too - on a certain set of assumptions.
My tuppence is a preference to stick to the books tabled and allow any allies within date range but at my age and disposition this is not one of the few things that would transport me to the barricades.
HH
I agree I think it shouldn't be changed at this late stage. I wasn't asking for the criteria to be changed, I just wondered about the rationale.
On the point of allies - this hasn't been clarified and it can affect army choice.
Richard
For list checking purposes I am happy to allow any ally of armies in the in theme books as long as they are specified as allowed after 1065.
I know it's a month until the comp. I couldn't give a Monkeys either way, BUT if it meant more people could enter why not revert back to Britcon being open as it's always been. Alasdair set the time scale but is playing Renaissance as is Simon.
The more the merrier as far as I'm concerned. Shame that some cant enter as they dont have a 1066 + army.
As I said dont mind either way, but I dont suppose many have finalised armies.
Quote from: Robin on July 14, 2019, 08:51:42 AM
I know it's a month until the comp. I couldn't give a Monkeys either way, BUT if it meant more people could enter why not revert back to Britcon being open as it's always been. Alasdair set the time scale but is playing Renaissance as is Simon.
The more the merrier as far as I'm concerned. Shame that some cant enter as they dont have a 1066 + army.
As I said dont mind either way, but I dont suppose many have finalised armies.
How many people who dont have a +1066 army woyld come? Anyone you know?
No idea. Just chucking it out there. Just a shame if somebody was unable to attend because of the dates.
Always liked Britcon giving the ability to field unusual armies. Still remember thecshock waves when I fielded West Sudanese in fOGR.
On the other hand there are players who have signed up who were attracted by the themed offering. I think we must leave as is but can take soundings at the basho wrt next year if folks feel that would be desirable.
HH
Agree too late to change now with under four weeks to go.
So let it be written, so let it be done. No change to the army list eligibility and allies within date range allowed.
HH
Army list checking shop now open for business folks. What will it be ......
Option One - faff about and agonise over what to take, chopping and changing trying to second guess what everybody else is taking and trying to trump that - then thinking that you what you really need is the army that trumps the trumpers ........ etc. etc. etc.
Option Two - there's no point messing about, every army has its pluses and minuses - que cera cera, lob it in and that's one thing off the "to do" list.
The choice is yours ........
HH
Quote from: Hunter on July 15, 2019, 09:32:44 AM
So let it be written, so let it be done. No change to the army list eligibility and allies within date range allowed.
HH
So an ally from a non qualifying pdf is allowed if the year of alliance is within the date range?
Is that what you mean?
Yes. Like Iberian types with North African allies if such a thing exists.
HH
Hunter, wow, an executive decision., I am reminded of Yes Prime Minister when Jim Hacker would decide something and Sir Humphrey's way of changing his mind was to say, " That is very brave of you."
Hunter, that was a very brave decision.
Big boy pants are ON although I checked and couldn't find any allies for the books in question that would be questionable before posting. Seems those pants come with belt and braces!
Quote from: Hunter on July 15, 2019, 10:11:47 AM
Big boy pants are ON although I checked and couldn't find any allies for the books in question that would be questionable before posting. Seems those pants come with belt and braces!
Hang fire on that - I need to run something by Si. Big boy pants were too tight ........
HH
Quote from: Hunter on July 15, 2019, 01:21:16 PM
Quote from: Hunter on July 15, 2019, 10:11:47 AM
Big boy pants are ON although I checked and couldn't find any allies for the books in question that would be questionable before posting. Seems those pants come with belt and braces!
Hang fire on that - I need to run something by Si. Big boy pants were too tight ........
HH
Oh, oh, the responsibility!! You sound like you have just had your Jim Hacker moment.
Yes - discovered a potential issue and need to run it by the boss man.
HH
Quote from: Hunter on July 15, 2019, 01:31:19 PM
Yes - discovered a potential issue and need to run it by the boss man.
HH
Yes. Me too.
😂😂😂😂😂
I didn't have to wait too long for white smoke and neither will you.
Allies from the eligible books only and in date. Other books have been covered in other competitions.
HH
Hunter, so Simon did not back your executive decision. Be like the British Ambassador to Washington and resign. You do not need the Ferraro Rocher chocolates in any case.
Quote from: marshalney2000 on July 15, 2019, 03:33:41 PM
Hunter, so Simon did not back your executive decision. Be like the British Ambassador to Washington and resign. You do not need the Ferraro Rocher chocolates in any case.
In a statement today Simon said, "I have every confidence in Hunter"
Ah, the dreaded vote of confidence.
List in
Robin, I think you may be the first in other than Hunter's own list.
Quote from: marshalney2000 on July 15, 2019, 03:33:41 PM
Hunter, so Simon did not back your executive decision. Be like the British Ambassador to Washington and resign. You do not need the Ferraro Rocher chocolates in any case.
Correct. After a little more digging I found a potential land mine so ran it by the boss. Situation now crystal clear in no time at all. That's the way I like it.
HH
Quote from: marshalney2000 on July 15, 2019, 05:19:35 PM
Robin, I think you may be the first in other than Hunter's own list.
Yep, 2 lists in already.
HH
Quote from: rayfredjohn on July 15, 2019, 03:38:30 PM
Quote from: marshalney2000 on July 15, 2019, 03:33:41 PM
Hunter, so Simon did not back your executive decision. Be like the British Ambassador to Washington and resign. You do not need the Ferraro Rocher chocolates in any case.
In a statement today Simon said, "I have every confidence in Hunter"
.... perhaps the second half on the sentence was unprintable "... to .....
Quote from: Hunter on July 15, 2019, 05:31:03 PM
Quote from: rayfredjohn on July 15, 2019, 03:38:30 PM
Quote from: marshalney2000 on July 15, 2019, 03:33:41 PM
Hunter, so Simon did not back your executive decision. Be like the British Ambassador to Washington and resign. You do not need the Ferraro Rocher chocolates in any case.
In a statement today Simon said, "I have every confidence in Hunter"
.... perhaps the second half on the sentence was unprintable "... to .....
"... to continue to boost his forum post count by giving us an email by email update on list entries." ;D ;D ;D ;D
Quote from: nikgaukroger on July 15, 2019, 06:43:57 PM
Quote from: Hunter on July 15, 2019, 05:31:03 PM
Quote from: rayfredjohn on July 15, 2019, 03:38:30 PM
Quote from: marshalney2000 on July 15, 2019, 03:33:41 PM
Hunter, so Simon did not back your executive decision. Be like the British Ambassador to Washington and resign. You do not need the Ferraro Rocher chocolates in any case.
In a statement today Simon said, "I have every confidence in Hunter"
.... perhaps the second half on the sentence was unprintable "... to .....
"... to continue to boost his forum post count by giving us an email by email update on list entries." ;D ;D ;D ;D
COMPETITION TIME
Complete this sentence;
"I have every confidence in Hunter ......... "
Quote from: nikgaukroger on July 15, 2019, 06:43:57 PM
Quote from: Hunter on July 15, 2019, 05:31:03 PM
Quote from: rayfredjohn on July 15, 2019, 03:38:30 PM
Quote from: marshalney2000 on July 15, 2019, 03:33:41 PM
Hunter, so Simon did not back your executive decision. Be like the British Ambassador to Washington and resign. You do not need the Ferraro Rocher chocolates in any case.
In a statement today Simon said, "I have every confidence in Hunter"
.... perhaps the second half on the sentence was unprintable "... to .....
"... to continue to boost his forum post count by giving us an email by email update on list entries." ;D ;D ;D ;D
We have 2 lists in as of today ......
You are a cruel bunch although I am sure you are set to offer much mercy to this lowly ranker at the basho.
HH
Quote from: Hunter on July 15, 2019, 08:50:55 PM
You are a cruel bunch although I am sure you are set to offer much mercy to this lowly ranker at the basho.
HH
Not only a lower ranker but a deluded lower ranker. Pity and mercy are sentiments you are unlikely to hear.
Quote from: rayfredjohn on July 15, 2019, 06:56:35 PM
Quote from: nikgaukroger on July 15, 2019, 06:43:57 PM
Quote from: Hunter on July 15, 2019, 05:31:03 PM
Quote from: rayfredjohn on July 15, 2019, 03:38:30 PM
Quote from: marshalney2000 on July 15, 2019, 03:33:41 PM
Hunter, so Simon did not back your executive decision. Be like the British Ambassador to Washington and resign. You do not need the Ferraro Rocher chocolates in any case.
In a statement today Simon said, "I have every confidence in Hunter"
.... perhaps the second half on the sentence was unprintable "... to .....
"... to continue to boost his forum post count by giving us an email by email update on list entries." ;D ;D ;D ;D
COMPETITION TIME
Complete this sentence;
"I have every confidence in Hunter ......... "
I have every confidence in Hunter for the rest of the season ...... well at least until the transfer window"
I have confidence in Hunter even although he knicked my army list for Britcon
That's 2 lists in folks - both from different books. What diversity!
HH
Top ten-ners in the rankings that have thrown their hats in the ring for Britcon so far are
Jason Broomer 2 Reigate
Laurence Donohoe 3 Bournemouth
Richard Jeffrey-Cook 5 Farnborough
Nicholas Gaukroger 6 Reigate
Raymond Duggins 8 Reigate
What order will we see these names on the podium come Sunday 11th August? Or will a dark horse from lower down the rankings - but inside the top 25 - sneak in there somewhere?
Good luck to the top players as well as the unfancied low rankers who are never the less deserving of mercy at the basho.
Hunter
Could it be an unprecedented Reigate 1-2-3? Now there's a thought ........
Don't forget Hunter who should be anywhere between 4 and 6 in rankings and John who should be around 7 or 8.
Bookies love it when they have ringers like you two in the race.
Hunter and I are far too modest to be amongst the luminaries.
Britcon 2017 23 players
Britcon 2018 22 players
It would be a real shame if we had less this year
21 is bloody good considering a fair few will have shot their bolt in competing at Skulls a wee whiley ago Rayman.
The 38 we had at Skulls was a phenonononomon.
Never mind the quantity though - its the quality that counts. 1/2 of the world's top ten scrapping it out for just 3 podium places whilst dispensing mercy to the lowly ranked hingers oan.
My early take on the top 3 .....
1. Ray
2. Jason
3. John
..... you heard it here first.
Full Riders and Rankings as of today ....
Jason Broomer 2 Reigate
Laurence Donohoe 3 Bournemouth
Richard Jeffrey-Cook 5 Farnborough
Nicholas Gaukroger 6 Reigate
Raymond Duggins 8 Reigate
Lance Flint 12 Farnborough
David Parish 13 Reigate
Paul Cummins 14 Milton Keynes
Stephen Stead 15 Reigate
John Munro 16 Perth
Robin Spence 20 Bournemouth
Peter Entwistle 21 Ribble Warriors
Hunter Hope 26 Perth
Jacques Wilputte 34 Belgium
Gilles Wielgosz 46 Immortels de Paris Ouest
Stewart Riddick 50 Perth
Frederic Duffour 54
Peter Reilly 61 Wirral
Niall Taylor - Perth
Renaud Cordier - Immortels de Paris Ouest
Serge Adeline -
Quote from: Hunter on July 17, 2019, 01:44:30 PM
21 is bloody good considering a fair few will have shot their bolt in competing at Skulls a wee whiley ago Rayman.
The 38 we had at Skulls was a phenonononomon.
Never mind the quantity though - its the quality that counts. 1/2 of the world's top ten scrapping it out for just 3 podium places whilst dispensing mercy to the lowly ranked hingers oan.
My early take on the top 3 .....
1. Ray
2. Jason
3. John
..... you heard it here first.
It's not going to happen. I like to drink all day and night at BRITCON
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It's not going to happen. I like to drink all day and night at BRITCON
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Your odds have just strengthened, not lengthened!
HH
Quote from: Hunter on July 17, 2019, 02:24:36 PM
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It's not going to happen. I like to drink all day and night at BRITCON
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Your odds have just strengthened, not lengthened!
HH
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good point
Quote from: Hunter on July 17, 2019, 01:47:20 PM
Full Riders and Rankings as of today ....
Jason Broomer 2 Reigate
Laurence Donohoe 3 Bournemouth
Richard Jeffrey-Cook 5 Farnborough
Nicholas Gaukroger 6 Reigate
Raymond Duggins 8 Reigate
Lance Flint 12 Farnborough
David Parish 13 Reigate
Paul Cummins 14 Milton Keynes
Stephen Stead 15 Reigate
John Munro 16 Perth
Robin Spence 20 Bournemouth
Peter Entwistle 21 Ribble Warriors
Hunter Hope 26 Perth
Jacques Wilputte 34 Belgium
Gilles Wielgosz 46 Immortels de Paris Ouest
Stewart Riddick 50 Perth
Frederic Duffour 54
Peter Reilly 61 Wirral
Niall Taylor - Perth
Renaud Cordier - Immortels de Paris Ouest
Serge Adeline -
Something seems a bit dodgy about these rankings. Hunter you have two comps to your name in the last year and came 5th out of 38 and 6th out of 22. How then are you ranked 26th?
Rank, well for competition taking place in uk 8)
After a fine 82% completion rate with 3hrs +- 5 minutes does anyone have any objection to moving to that for Britcon?
S
Something seems a bit dodgy about these rankings. Hunter you have two comps to your name in the last year and came 5th out of 38 and 6th out of 22. How then are you ranked 26th?
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We must assume that the ranking boffins know what they are doing Craig. Probably down to lack of consistency I imagine. The upside is that the top ten-ners and John are apt to make allowances and take it easy on me - nice fellahs that they are.
HH
Quote from: Simon Meg-Meister on July 17, 2019, 03:19:38 PM
After a fine 82% completion rate with 3hrs +- 5 minutes does anyone have any objection to moving to that for Britcon?
S
Great idea.
HH
Quote from: craig.w on July 17, 2019, 02:40:13 PM
Quote from: Hunter on July 17, 2019, 01:47:20 PM
Full Riders and Rankings as of today ....
Jason Broomer 2 Reigate
Laurence Donohoe 3 Bournemouth
Richard Jeffrey-Cook 5 Farnborough
Nicholas Gaukroger 6 Reigate
Raymond Duggins 8 Reigate
Lance Flint 12 Farnborough
David Parish 13 Reigate
Paul Cummins 14 Milton Keynes
Stephen Stead 15 Reigate
John Munro 16 Perth
Robin Spence 20 Bournemouth
Peter Entwistle 21 Ribble Warriors
Hunter Hope 26 Perth
Jacques Wilputte 34 Belgium
Gilles Wielgosz 46 Immortels de Paris Ouest
Stewart Riddick 50 Perth
Frederic Duffour 54
Peter Reilly 61 Wirral
Niall Taylor - Perth
Renaud Cordier - Immortels de Paris Ouest
Serge Adeline -
Something seems a bit dodgy about these rankings. Hunter you have two comps to your name in the last year and came 5th out of 38 and 6th out of 22. How then are you ranked 26th?
Unless you play 4 competitions then your ranking will automatically be lower. I am in a similar position but played three. Hunter is a think the highest ranked player with two competitions and I think I am the highest rated who has played three.
Nik G is the highest ranked player with a 3 number player id
Go Nik. This year's "dark horse"?
Quote from: rayfredjohn on July 17, 2019, 03:58:45 PM
Nik G is the highest ranked player with a 3 number player id
Looking at the official rankings it shows Nik at sixth having played in four tournaments. I stand by my original claim for highest ranking with three tournaments.
Laurence Donohoe played his first tournament in January 2018 and has not been outside top 10 for the last 14 tournaments.
And well done to him. Gold star awarded.
Quote from: marshalney2000 on July 17, 2019, 04:39:08 PM
Quote from: rayfredjohn on July 17, 2019, 03:58:45 PM
Nik G is the highest ranked player with a 3 number player id
Looking at the official rankings it shows Nik at sixth having played in four tournaments. I stand by my original claim for highest ranking with three tournaments.
errrrr his player id is 100
your player id is 72
So my Top 5 predictions
Jason
Laurence
Hunter
John
Nik
Quote from: rayfredjohn on July 17, 2019, 04:48:19 PM
Quote from: marshalney2000 on July 17, 2019, 04:39:08 PM
Quote from: rayfredjohn on July 17, 2019, 03:58:45 PM
Nik G is the highest ranked player with a 3 number player id
Looking at the official rankings it shows Nik at sixth having played in four tournaments. I stand by my original claim for highest ranking with three tournaments.
errrrr his player id is 100
your player id is 72
You are going to have raptors explain your logic to me. What has player ID got to do with how many tournaments has played in during the last twelve months.
Quote from: marshalney2000 on July 17, 2019, 06:16:23 PM
Quote from: rayfredjohn on July 17, 2019, 04:48:19 PM
Quote from: marshalney2000 on July 17, 2019, 04:39:08 PM
Quote from: rayfredjohn on July 17, 2019, 03:58:45 PM
Nik G is the highest ranked player with a 3 number player id
Looking at the official rankings it shows Nik at sixth having played in four tournaments. I stand by my original claim for highest ranking with three tournaments.
errrrr his player id is 100
your player id is 72
You are going to have raptors explain your logic to me. What has player ID got to do with how many tournaments has played in during the last twelve months.
The higher the player id the more recently the player joined the MeG tournament scene. Simples
I agree with that totally but it was not the subject under discussion. I could be playerID number one but that is not a reflection in any way of the number of competitions played.
The point you were disputing was my contention that Hunter was the highest ranking player who had only played two games and I was the highest only having played three. Your view was that Nik had only played three which if you check the rankings was not an accurate statement as he is clearly shown as having played four. The rankings also back up my statement.
Interesting the blessed Mr Hall is player ID 36 or so but is seventeenth in the rankings because like myself he has only played in three tournaments.
On this point we would like to have a tournament in Scotland but there seems a reluctance for players to travel from South of the border. Come on guys, it is not like North of the wall in Game of Thrones and indeed we would lock up the White Walkers for that weekend.
Quote from: marshalney2000 on July 17, 2019, 06:58:14 PM
I agree with that totally but it was not the subject under discussion. I could be playerID number one but that is not a reflection in any way of the number of competitions played.
The point you were disputing was my contention that Hunter was the highest ranking player who had only played two games and I was the highest only having played three. Your view was that Nik had only played three which if you check the rankings was not an accurate statement as he is clearly shown as having played four. The rankings also back up my statement.
Interesting the blessed Mr Hall is player ID 36 or so but is seventeenth in the rankings because like myself he has only played in three tournaments.
On this point we would like to have a tournament in Scotland but there seems a reluctance for players to travel from South of the border. Come on guys, it is not like North of the wall in Game of Thrones and indeed we would lock up the White Walkers for that weekend.
Before you put your neck out any further read my post. If you say I disputed your point prove it. I didn't quote you I made a separate point. Wind your neck in.
Ok accept that you made a different point but as mentioned above player ID is pretty irrelevant. I could be player ID no 1 but not play a game for a whole year.
Time to draw the curtain other than inviting you across the border.
Quote from: marshalney2000 on July 17, 2019, 07:17:05 PM
Ok accept that you made a different point but as mentioned above player ID is pretty irrelevant. I could be player ID no 1 but not play a game for a whole year.
Time to draw the curtain other than inviting you across the border.
As I explained. Player id indicates when the player played their first MeG tournament. A relevant point to the discussion.
Quote from: rayfredjohn on July 17, 2019, 07:21:20 PM
Quote from: marshalney2000 on July 17, 2019, 07:17:05 PM
Ok accept that you made a different point but as mentioned above player ID is pretty irrelevant. I could be player ID no 1 but not play a game for a whole year.
Time to draw the curtain other than inviting you across the border.
As I explained. Player id indicates when the player played their first MeG tournament. A relevant point to the discussion.
We can agree to disagree on that.
Quote from: marshalney2000 on July 17, 2019, 06:58:14 PM
On this point we would like to have a tournament in Scotland but there seems a reluctance for players to travel from South of the border. Come on guys, it is not like North of the wall in Game of Thrones and indeed we would lock up the White Walkers for that weekend.
« The wildlings are never eager ending up in castral rock ? »
Favorite quote from one of my friend playing GoT
Quote from: Simon Meg-Meister on July 17, 2019, 03:19:38 PM
After a fine 82% completion rate with 3hrs +- 5 minutes does anyone have any objection to moving to that for Britcon?
S
Flat 3 hours IMO - no need for variable.
Quote from: marshalney2000 on July 17, 2019, 07:31:08 PM
Quote from: rayfredjohn on July 17, 2019, 07:21:20 PM
Quote from: marshalney2000 on July 17, 2019, 07:17:05 PM
Ok accept that you made a different point but as mentioned above player ID is pretty irrelevant. I could be player ID no 1 but not play a game for a whole year.
Time to draw the curtain other than inviting you across the border.
As I explained. Player id indicates when the player played their first MeG tournament. A relevant point to the discussion.
We can agree to disagree on that.
Ray is making a subtle and totally valid point.
Dudes - you are all making valid points. Now stop hijacking my thread with sensibleness and get back to the childish jibber jabber that is my mainstay!
Ray
Thanks for the vote of confidence. Can I take it your entry for the competition within a competition is that "Simon has every confidence that Hunter ...... will finish 3rd at Britcon".
If so I am content that we are already well on course to return to an acceptable nonsense quotient.
HH
Quote from: nikgaukroger on July 17, 2019, 07:55:10 PM
Quote from: marshalney2000 on July 17, 2019, 07:31:08 PM
Quote from: rayfredjohn on July 17, 2019, 07:21:20 PM
Quote from: marshalney2000 on July 17, 2019, 07:17:05 PM
Ok accept that you made a different point but as mentioned above player ID is pretty irrelevant. I could be player ID no 1 but not play a game for a whole year.
Time to draw the curtain other than inviting you across the border.
As I explained. Player id indicates when the player played their first MeG tournament. A relevant point to the discussion.
We can agree to disagree on that.
Ray is making a subtle and totally valid point.
I think we need a public vote on this issue.
JHC get a f...g life u lot.
U seriously got nothing better to do
Quote from: marshalney2000 on July 17, 2019, 08:51:28 PM
I think we need a public vote on this issue.
Given the rep of public votes at present I think we'd be better off giving that option a miss :o
Quote from: Robin on July 15, 2019, 04:51:12 PM
List in
Who do I send my pathetic attempt at a list to?
Lists, pathetic or not, to me Rayman. I have lodged my list with Alasdair.
HH
Quote from: Hunter on July 18, 2019, 03:45:55 PM
Lists, pathetic or not, to me Rayman. I have lodged my list with Alasdair.
HH
sent
I will bribe Hunter to let me see it tonight.
Quote from: marshalney2000 on July 18, 2019, 05:21:50 PM
I will bribe Hunter to let me see it tonight.
Comedy value
All lists are treated in the strictest confidence lads. I appreciate that a lot of time and effort goes into the lists before the basho and that basho goers are entirely entitled to expect that no-one has any idea about what they have chosen in advance of the runners and riders being published. You have my word on that.
HH
Quote from: Hunter on July 18, 2019, 09:49:53 PM
... no-one has any idea about what they have chosen in advance of the runners and riders being published.
This can include the person whose list it is in some cases :o :P :P ;D
Quite so Nik - I am sure more than one basho goer will shake their heads in disbelief a few weeks down the line when packing the dollies the night before the basho. Did I really pick that? What was I thinking?
Quote from: nikgaukroger on July 18, 2019, 09:52:22 PM
Quote from: Hunter on July 18, 2019, 09:49:53 PM
... no-one has any idea about what they have chosen in advance of the runners and riders being published.
This can include the person whose list it is in some cases :o :P :P ;D
My list is very forgettable
Unlike you ;) :D ;D
Dpnt forget - the list checking shop is still open for business folks
HH
Quote from: Hunter on July 21, 2019, 11:19:33 AM
Dpnt forget - the list checking shop is still open for business folks
HH
Unfortunately my list compilation shop is closed.
Quote from: marshalney2000 on July 22, 2019, 12:37:09 PM
Quote from: Hunter on July 21, 2019, 11:19:33 AM
Dpnt forget - the list checking shop is still open for business folks
HH
Unfortunately my list compilation shop is closed.
when is list deadline
1st August I think.
Quote from: Hunter on July 17, 2019, 08:04:07 PM
Dudes - you are all making valid points. Now stop hijacking my thread with sensibleness and get back to the childish jibber jabber that is my mainstay!
Ray
Thanks for the vote of confidence. Can I take it your entry for the competition within a competition is that "Simon has every confidence that Hunter ...... will finish 3rd at Britcon".
If so I am content that we are already well on course to return to an acceptable nonsense quotient.
HH
Now checking to see if there is any correlation between ranking and those leading the charge to the breakfast buffet. This could rock the established order.
Quote from: rayfredjohn on July 17, 2019, 04:49:53 PM
So my Top 5 predictions
Jason
Laurence
Hunter
John
Nik
Do not underestimate non UK players 8) I know my army is suicide but ...I hope to surprise you
Quote from: badhabum on July 24, 2019, 02:46:26 PM
Quote from: rayfredjohn on July 17, 2019, 04:49:53 PM
So my Top 5 predictions
Jason
Laurence
Hunter
John
Nik
Don't think I can make it.
Do not underestimate non UK players 8) I know my army is suicide but ...I hope to surprise you
Hunter,
I can't find a post deciding whether we are playing three hour games, as suggested, or the 2.45 hrs plus 1 to 15 minutes?
It might affect army choices?
Lance.
3 Hours plus/minus 5'minutes is the current thinking.
HH
As per Skulls.
Should be showing on BHGS system that way.
S
Quote from: Hunter on July 24, 2019, 07:33:23 PM
3 Hours plus/minus 5'minutes is the current thinking.
HH
What difference does it make ?
morale ?
BHGS site says:
Quote
DURATION
All games will be 2hrs 45 minutes plus a 15 minute variable.
Just make it a flat 3 hours. MeG doesn't need variable and its just an annoying thing for the orga/umpire to have to keep an eye on at game end.
Hi Everyone,
list sent.
see you soon :)
PUNCH
Hi folks - re Fridays game - Friday: Rolling start from 6pm (or sooner if you wish), last start 7:30pm. Last bound called around 11pm
In prior years names were put in a hat when you arrived so could on with games on the Friday rather than wait for your opponent to turn up - can this be done this year ?
Ta
Cid
Indeed that is the incentive to get cracking on the Friday evening. Would like to see it done this year?
Lance.
That what I understood by "rolling start" - its the Britcon norm isn't it?
Was always a giggle from the orga point of view seeing people trying to time when they put their name in the hat to try and get a good match up :o :o ;D ;D
Quote from: Cid on July 28, 2019, 10:09:05 AM
Hi folks - re Fridays game - Friday: Rolling start from 6pm (or sooner if you wish), last start 7:30pm. Last bound called around 11pm
In prior years names were put in a hat when you arrived so could on with games on the Friday rather than wait for your opponent to turn up - can this be done this year ?
Ta
Cid
That
is the way its being done ... otherwise Kev and I never get home... the players and theme umpires have no choice about it !
Quote from: nikgaukroger on July 28, 2019, 10:53:57 AM
That what I understood by "rolling start" - its the Britcon norm isn't it?
Was always a giggle from the orga point of view seeing people trying to time when they put their name in the hat to try and get a good match up :o :o ;D ;D
yes! I vote for the Hat choice! 8)
PUNCH
Great idea. Can everybody send me there mobile numbers and also text me when due to arrive. Once I see R @ R I can then time my walk in to perfection LOL And still get thrashed 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Goos idea though 👍 Now who do I want to walk in with 🤔 Dodge Jason, RJC,CID ...........
Yep , prefer the draw from hat on arrival . last year the draw was done prior to the day so had to wait for your opponent to turn up.
Anyways will post when Robin is due to arrive just for those who want a quick game ;)
Cid
Halo basho goers.
I am just back from a week on Eriskay (tiny island off the coast of Bonnie Scotland) and able to share some GREAT news. We are currently at 22 competitors which compares very favourably at this stage with Britcon '18. If you know of anyone who is swithering rope 'em in toute suite - the more the merrier.
Even better - I have 11 army lists in my little in tray so we are a good 1/2 way to your runners and riders already. Nice mix of armies so far although I guarantee that some will raise eyebrows.
Game times will be either 3 hours flat or 3 hours plus/minus 5 minutes - just to be confirmed by our resident Meg Meister. Either way its as near to 3 hours as damnit.
Tim has said that players will be matched up - subject to the normal exclusions - to play the Friday round on arrival at Britcon mission control.
HH
Game times will be 3 hours plus/minus 5 minutes determined by rolling 2 x D6, one plus and one minus apart from Friday night which is play till Tim or Kevin chases you out of the games room with a cattle prod!
HH
13 lists now received folks - just 9 to go then you will have your runners and riders. Some cracking choices in there which will make for a great competition.
HH
Hold the 'phone! 15 lists received and approved. Just 7 to go and the runners and riders are yours!
Remember - its not too late for mates to join in on the fun. If you know anyone who is swithering I can testify that its a right good weekend out!
HH
Current riders (22)
Serge Adeline
Jason Broomer
Renaud Cordier
Paul Cummins
Laurence Donohoe
Lance Flint
Dufour Frédéric
Nicholas Gaukroger
Hunter Hope
Richard Jeffrey-Cook
John Munro
David Parish
Roger Pitfield
Adrian Pitfield
Peter Reilly
Stewart Riddick
Robin Spence
Stephen Stead
Sam Street
Niall Taylor
Gilles Wielgosz
Jacques Wilputte
HH
C'mon the magnificent seven! Lists = runners and riders = banter.
HH
A gentle reminder that if you have booked the super value (£42 per night with all you can gorge breakfast) student accommodation at the Pendulum Hotel you need to pay a week in advance latest. That means today for me as I've just been paid! Cinders is going to the ball it seems!
HH
Stop Press
An amazing 16/22 lists now received, checked and approved.
Just six to go before you get your runners and riders folks. I'm hoping that I will be able to post same on Friday as Thursday is club night for many and the serious gamers will be play testing long and hard up to the wire to perfect that killer army!
HH
Another gentle reminder ...........
All six games will be 3hrs plus/minus 5 minutes variable.
Friday: rolling start from 6pm, last start 7.30pm. Last phase will be called around 11pm. The Friday night game is played until time is called unless both players agree otherwise.
Saturday: 9-12am, 1-4pm, 4.30-7.30pm.
Sunday: 9-12am, 1-4pm
HH
erratum
Five games will be 3hrs plus/minus 5 minutes variable.
The Friday night game is played from start to finish or when last phase is called around 11pm.
HH
Quote from: Hunter on July 31, 2019, 12:37:48 PM
A gentle reminder that if you have booked the super value (£42 per night with all you can gorge breakfast) student accommodation at the Pendulum Hotel you need to pay a week in advance latest. That means today for me as I've just been paid! Cinders is going to the ball it seems!
HH
Done 2 weeks ago 8)
Ok fellahs - down to the last three lists outstanding. Thanks to all you early birds - just two to check tomorrow then all will be approved!
HH
..... and then there were just 2. That's right folks just 2 lists outstanding before you get your runners and riders. On course for the big reveal tomorrow!
HH
Only one list outstanding folks and 90 minutes to go. Someone is taking it to the wire ............... can it be club night in Perth?
HH
All lists in. R&R by tomorrow noon. Watch this space.
HH
HIGH NOON 8)
Aya we have 1h time difference...
Drum rollllllllllllllllllll
Announcing Britcon '19 Runners and Riders ...........
Serge Adeline, Medieval Burgundian
Jason Broomer, Catalan Company in Anatolia
Renaud Cordier, Norman
Paul Cummins, Feudal German
Laurence Donohoe, Medieval German City League
Lance Flint, Sultanates of Rum
Dufour Frédéric, Timurid
Nicholas Gaukroger, Edward IV English
Hunter Hope, Feudal German
Richard Jeffrey-Cook, Eastern Seljuk Turk
John Munro, Feudal German
David Parish, Georgian
Roger Pitfield, Richard III English
Adrian Pitfield, Anglo Norman
Peter Reilly ,Ghaznavid
Stewart Riddick, Aragonese Sicilian
Robin Spence, Norman
Stephen Stead, Medieval Frisian or Dithmarschen
Sam Street, Aragonese Sicilian
Niall Taylor, Catalan Company in Anatolia
Gilles Wielgosz, Catalan Company in Anatolia
Jacques Wilputte, Late Swiss
Good Luck to all.
HH
thats quite a lot of Catalans
and Germans
... and Normans and Aragonese.
... and English.
HH
For once I might meet a Pitfield brother....When they come to belgium I usualy organise 8)
So I am the only swiss ...a bit suicidal army but I was wondering what I could do with them
Could you post the date of the lists - always aids the banter.
Quote from: nikgaukroger on August 02, 2019, 01:24:25 PM
Could you post the date of the lists - always aids the banter.
Swiss "from 1477 BCE"
Nik's off the cuff immediate reaction to the armies chosen.
Medieval Burgundian - bunch of English wannabes ;) An OK choice.
Catalan Company in Anatolia - high octane, hard hitting, possibly a bit risky. Can go big if played well. ;D
Norman - never dies wondering 8)
Feudal German - solid, competitive and a bit dull :P
Medieval German City league - see Feudal German.
Sultanate of Rum - a favorite of mine, but I'm trying to force myself away from shooty cavalry for a bit. Not sure it can string enough big wins together over 6 games though. Fun. :)
Timurid - really not sure :o
Edward IV English - challenging myself really with 6 games, but I'll let you decide if its a good choice or not :-X
Eastern Seljuq Turk - have looked at it for a different competition, has some nice options. Interesting. :D
Georgian - Dave lives up to his reputation for picking an oddball. Should be fun ;D
Richard III - a horse, a horse! Will King Richard do better than Richard, Duke of Gloucester? A comp within a comp :P
Anglo-Norman - bit iffy IMO :-[
Ghaznavid - I nearly went wit this, can surprise people ... :)
Aragonese Sicilian - knights and Almughavars, nice on paper :)
Medieval Frisian - see Feudal German ::)
Late Swiss - in the running for smallest army? ;D
Quote from: lionheartrjc on August 02, 2019, 01:26:03 PM
Quote from: Hunter on August 02, 2019, 01:18:26 PM
... and English.
HH
What - no Scots?
Richard
Too busy peering over the wall looking out for the next invasion! I think Niall was very close to taking Medieval Scots and I was within a whisker of taking Jimmy IV Scots. We both went for sensibler options in the end.
HH
Quote from: nikgaukroger on August 02, 2019, 01:24:25 PM
Could you post the date of the lists - always aids the banter.
All post 1065.
HH
QuoteLate Swiss - in the running for smallest army? ;D
Was it so difficult to find out 8)
Quote from: Hunter on August 02, 2019, 02:29:29 PM
Quote from: nikgaukroger on August 02, 2019, 01:24:25 PM
Could you post the date of the lists - always aids the banter.
All post 1065.
HH
Well I'm glad you managed to remember that bit. Actual date for each list beyond you?
Nik dear friend there is little of good or bad that is beyond me. Army list dates will be shared at noon tomorrow!
HH
Appreciate that mate 8)
Find me for a thank you for that hard work drink or two when we're there next week - really do appreciate people like you stepping up and doing the back room stuff to make comps run ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Quote from: nikgaukroger on August 02, 2019, 02:12:52 PM
Nik's off the cuff immediate reaction to the armies chosen.
Medieval Burgundian - bunch of English wannabes ;) An OK choice.
Catalan Company in Anatolia - high octane, hard hitting, possibly a bit risky. Can go big if played well. ;D
Norman - never dies wondering 8)
Feudal German - solid, competitive and a bit dull :P
Medieval German City league - see Feudal German.
Sultanate of Rum - a favorite of mine, but I'm trying to force myself away from shooty cavalry for a bit. Not sure it can string enough big wins together over 6 games though. Fun. :)
Timurid - really not sure :o
Edward IV English - challenging myself really with 6 games, but I'll let you decide if its a good choice or not :-X
Eastern Seljuq Turk - have looked at it for a different competition, has some nice options. Interesting. :D
Georgian - Dave lives up to his reputation for picking an oddball. Should be fun ;D
Richard III - a horse, a horse! Will King Richard do better than Richard, Duke of Gloucester? A comp within a comp :P
Anglo-Norman - bit iffy IMO :-[
Ghaznavid - I nearly went wit this, can surprise people ... :)
Aragonese Sicilian - knights and Almughavars, nice on paper :)
Medieval Frisian - see Feudal German ::)
Late Swiss - in the running for smallest army? ;D
How to make friends and influence people. Nik, did get his deposit back from the diplomacy college.
Ach away John. Me and Nik go way back to DBM days. Nik has high expectations having been at the organising and execution side of Britcon for many years and much appreciated that was too. You don't owe me ought Nik - it's just my turn. It's all good banter!
HH
I think this maybe the first time i have ever had an army choice described as dull
Ahem... (CENSORED) 😈
Quote from: DracoStandard on August 02, 2019, 09:38:09 PM
I think this maybe the first time i have ever had an army choice described as dull
Did you try the new paintings « contrast » yet?
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Catalan Company in Anatolia - high octane, hard hitting, possibly a bit risky. Can go big if played well. ;D
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Benzin, gib mir benzin !
Wasn't the banter supposed to have started already ?
I play swiss so stay neutral while training to run as quickly as horses do
Rainy days in Manchester ????
Probably not, they would have been behind their screen then.
Dates
Earliest 1066, latest 1477, average 1258
Serge Adeline Medieval Burgundian 1436
Jason Broomer Catalan Company in Anatolia 1430
Renaud Cordier Norman 1066
Paul Cummins Feudal German 1147
Laurence Donohoe Medieval German City League 1440
Lance Flint Sultanates of Rum 1140
Dufour Frédéric Timurid 1304
Nicholas Gaukroger Edward IV English 1482
Hunter Hope Feudal German 1160
Richard Jeffrey-Cook Eastern Seljuk Turk 1156
John Munro Feudal German 1155
David Parish Georgian 1131
Roger Pitfield Richard III English 1435
Adrian Pitfield Anglo Norman 1137
Peter Reilly Ghaznavid 1070
Stewart Riddick Aragonese Sicilian 1314
Robin Spence Norman 1067
Stephen Stead Medieval Frisian or Dithmarschen 1220
Sam Street Aragonese Sicilian 1310
Niall Taylor Catalan Company in Anatolia 1304
Gilles Wielgosz Catalan Company in Anatolia 1304
Jacques Wilputte Late Swiss 1477
I can't say too much having seen the lists but there is a definite "peoples choice super troop" in there - any ideas anyone?
HH
Honestly my army choice is a challenge and I wonder what I can do with them and I have a plan : roll skulls ...
Jason kept the Catalan until 1430 in Anatolia ?
What was the resort name?
Quote from: Rino on August 05, 2019, 12:08:38 PM
Jason kept the Catalan until 1430 in Anatolia ?
What was the resort name?
Antalya?
Shaping up for a battle royal between the Germans and Catalans with the shooty cavalry dancing about the fringes then sweeping in to mop up any survivors!
Just 4 sleeps fellahs!
HH
Quote from: badhabum on August 05, 2019, 12:07:00 PM
Honestly my army choice is a challenge and I wonder what I can do with them and I have a plan : roll skulls ...
They will be great fun and that's the main thing.
HH
Quote from: Hunter on August 05, 2019, 11:35:29 AM
Jason Broomer Catalan Company in Anatolia 1430
Typo for 1304 I guess :)
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Roger Pitfield Richard III English 1435
As he wasn't born until 1452 I think we'll assume 1485 is meant here ;D
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I can't say too much having seen the lists but there is a definite "peoples choice super troop" in there - any ideas anyone?
One assumes Almughavars are popular given the Catalans and Aragonese.
Quote from: nikgaukroger on August 05, 2019, 02:13:02 PM
Quote from: Hunter link=topic=12.msg5343#msg5343 date=1565001329
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I can't say too much having seen the lists but there is a definite "peoples choice super troop" in there - any ideas anyone?
One assumes Almughavars are popular given the Catalans and Aragonese.
Do you mean skilled longbow are overrated ? :D
As, IIRC,only 1 army in the R&R can actually have them they can hardly be the people's choice troops type :P
Well in that case it isn't the heavily armored elephant from the gaznavid either, right?
Clearly.
Then, no it can't be but it has to be, then it would be those hordes of medium foot long spear devastating charger combat shy!
Timurid in 1304 is a typo as well, list starts in 1360.
Quote from: nikgaukroger on August 05, 2019, 06:26:18 PM
Timurid in 1304 is a typo as well, list starts in 1360.
List started in 1360 !!
I play in 1410
3 more sleeps basho goers. Any educated guesses as to who will feature on the podium given the army choices and who chose them in this post Alasdair era? I'd risk a quiet punt on Stewart Riddick this year and John Munro is always good value IMHO. Or is Alasdair really that good that he'll win anyway without even taking part!!!!!!!
However it plays out I am sure that the noble Britcon tradition of taking it easy on the low rankers will be observed at all times by those with the high rankings eh John?
HH
Here it is folks - the competition within the competition .......
Judging by the rankings we have a clear trio of favourites for the podium but for the rest of us this handy ready reckoner gives something to aim at - beat the ranking's outcome prediction. Who will be the "other" winner by exceeding expectations by the most? Truly the hero of the hour!
Runner & Rider, Ranking, Expected Outcome
Jason Broomer, Catalan Company in Anatolia, 2, 1st
Laurence Donohoe, Medieval German City League, 3, 2nd
Richard Jeffrey-Cook, Eastern Seljuk Turk, 4, 3rd
Nicholas Gaukroger, Edward IV English , 6, 4th
Lance Flint, Sultanates of Rum, 12, 5th
David Parish, Georgian, 13, 6th
Paul Cummins, Feudal German, 14, 7th
Stephen Stead, Medieval Frisian or Dithmarschen, 15, 8th
John Munro, Feudal German, 16, 9th
Sam Street, Aragonese Sicilian, 18, 10th
Robin Spence, Norman, 20, 11th
Hunter Hope, Feudal German, 26, 12th
Adrian Pitfield, Anglo Norman, 30, 13th
Roger Pitfield, Richard III English, 33, 14th
Jacques Wilputte, Late Swiss, 34, 15th
Gilles Wielgosz, Catalan Company in Anatolia, 46, 16th
Stewart Riddick, Aragonese Sicilian, 50, 17th
Dufour Frédéric, Timurid, 54, 18th
Peter Reilly, Ghaznavid, 61, 19th
Serge Adeline, Medieval Burgundian, -, 20th
Renaud Cordier, Norman, -, 20th
Niall Taylor, Catalan Company in Anatolia, -, 20th
HH
Paul Cummins should beat his present ranking, although he has had a bad run lately.
The War Doctor also has the potential to place, if not solidly hit the top 5.
Sam Street will certainly challenge too.
Nik, dangerous too, especially without Alasdair in the running.
And let us not forget the threat of our continual continental cousins.
Quote from: mad lemmey on August 06, 2019, 01:04:27 PM
Paul Cummins should beat his present ranking, although he has had a bad run lately.
The War Doctor also has the potential to place, if not solidly hit the top 5.
Mostly Paul has had terrible dice - and that's bound to turn around at some point. I've mostly had a run of terrible decision making and that may be less likely to turn around spontaneously. Thank goodness that, as Nik said, I've made a
Powerplayer oddball choice of army!
Well one good thing no one playing MEG at Britcon will go hungry as Hunter is producing a lot of total mince.
You are forgetting something. Your calculations are based on UK tournaments. Just remember, we do not play regularly in UK 8)
I might still end last so as to receive a beer in compensation ;D
Quote from: mad lemmey on August 06, 2019, 01:04:27 PM
Nik, dangerous too, especially without Alasdair in the running.
I'm anticipating mid-table mediocrity.
Hunter will place in the top 5 or 6.
Quote from: nikgaukroger on August 06, 2019, 02:48:41 PM
Quote from: mad lemmey on August 06, 2019, 01:04:27 PM
Nik, dangerous too, especially without Alasdair in the running.
I'm anticipating mid-table mediocrity.
Hunter will place in the top 5 or 6.
Nik, the modesty of players on this forum is stunning.
I think I'm being realistic given the R&R.
OK. Looking at the players and the armies, here's my predictions.
Top 5
1. Jason Broomer
2. John Munro
3. Laurence Donohoe
4. Gilles Wielgosz
5 = Hunter Hope
5 = Nik Gaukroger
Dark Horse: Stephen Stead
My analysis is attached if you're interested.
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Quote from: rayfredjohn on August 06, 2019, 05:39:34 PM
OK. Looking at the players and the armies, here's my predictions.
Top 5
1. Jason Broomer
2. John Munro
3. Laurence Donohoe
4. Gilles Wielgosz
5 = Hunter Hope
5 = Nik Gaukroger
Dark Horse: Stephen Stead
My analysis is attached if you're interested.
To quote "When Harry Met Sally." I will have what you are having!!
Quote from: daveparish on August 06, 2019, 01:10:22 PM
Mostly Paul has had terrible dice
Mostly Paul has failed to have a plan to mitigate terrible dice, apart from 'use a big army'
that and some stunning dice from my opponents at key times (7 skulls from 8 dice on evens will put a crimp in your swagger)
Love the comments! ;D
Quote from: rayfredjohn on August 06, 2019, 05:39:34 PM
OK. Looking at the players and the armies, here's my predictions.
Top 5
1. Jason Broomer
2. John Munro
3. Laurence Donohoe
4. Gilles Wielgosz
5 = Hunter Hope
5 = Nik Gaukroger
Dark Horse: Stephen Stead
My analysis is attached if you're interested.
I would like to see Stephen Stead win, mainly so he'll get tired of that Frisian monstrosity he runs and I won't have to face it anymore. It's very unpleasant.
Actually the Frisian/ Feudal German Army is ok but it is so boring to play. This coming from someone who is playing Feudal German with Frisian allies combo at Britcon. I really wanted switch but had not played other eligible armies enough.
The pain starts on Friday at 6 p.m.
Yeah, for other people... 😈
Quote from: marshalney2000 on August 06, 2019, 09:10:06 PM
Actually the Frisian/ Feudal German Army is ok but it is so boring to play. This coming from someone who is playing Feudal German with Frisian allies combo at Britcon. I really wanted switch but had not played other eligible armies enough.
The pain starts on Friday at 6 p.m.
If I can remind you of my analysis - "Feudal German - solid, competitive and a bit dull :P "
Quote from: nikgaukroger on August 06, 2019, 11:40:22 PM
Quote from: marshalney2000 on August 06, 2019, 09:10:06 PM
Actually the Frisian/ Feudal German Army is ok but it is so boring to play. This coming from someone who is playing Feudal German with Frisian allies combo at Britcon. I really wanted switch but had not played other eligible armies enough.
The pain starts on Friday at 6 p.m.
If I can remind you of my analysis - "Feudal German - solid, competitive and a bit dull :P "
Nicely done Nik.
I am actually looking forward to playing solid, competitive and dull at Britcon after the Khawarij which were loose, challenging and nail biting at Skulls. My first choice was Post Seljuk Abbasid which was very Khawarij in nature with the added nail biting attraction of 4 TUGs of unprotected Bedouin cavalry. On reflection I don't think my constitution would have stood for it!
HH
Top tips for the competition within a competition are
1.Niall
2.Giles
3.Stewart
Anyone disagree?
HH
Jason not Stewart surely - assuming you mean a comp within the Catalans.
No, no no
The "competition within the competition" which decides the true hero of the weekend is the race to beat the ranking based outcome prediction.
1.Niall
2.Giles
3.Stewart
for that.
You have now kicked off the "competition within the army pick competition".
For the Catalan component my pick is
1.Jason
2.Stewart
3.Giles
For the German Junket my pick is
1.John
2.Paul
3.HH
Hope that makes no sense.
HH
Quote from: Hunter on August 07, 2019, 11:11:54 AM
No, no no
The "competition within the competition" which decides the true hero of the weekend is the race to beat the ranking based outcome prediction.
1.Niall
2.Giles
3.Stewart
for that.
You have now kicked off the "competition within the army pick competition".
For the Catalan component my pick is
1.Jason
2.Stewart
3.Giles
For the German Junket my pick is
1.John
2.Paul
3.HH
Hope that makes no sense.
HH
where's Ringo?
Beat me to it! :D
There's a new star in town!
I really dont find the (early) Feudal German boring to play with... though now -/Farm get to move as fast as protected the shortspear/dev charge cav is a little less fun
Thank goodness. I was getting a bit worried about my Britcon experience having never played the Feudal Germans before. Friday night will be my first game with them! Any advice?
HH
You know the tables are listed as 180mm x 120mm in the info pack!!!
Enjoy
Quote from: Hunter on August 07, 2019, 07:12:05 PM
Thank goodness. I was getting a bit worried about my Britcon experience having never played the Feudal Germans before. Friday night will be my first game with them! Any advice?
HH
They are germans, disciplined,trained good soldiers soand numerous, what do you fear, be steady and voorwaerts
Ah du liber Augustin allés sur gin.
Mad is weg, geld is weg, Augustin liegt in dregt...
Apart that no advice
Maybe a beer and bradwurst for lunch?
Well thanks for the advice lads, I'm certainly a whole lot clearer about how to play this feudal German army now. I am so glad that I asked.
Quote from: Robin on August 07, 2019, 07:20:04 PM
Yeah dont walk in at the same time as Mr Stead otherwise your screwed ;)
Despite having different labels I doubt the contents of the two armies will be that different.
Quote from: Hunter on August 07, 2019, 09:30:17 PM
Well thanks for the advice lads, I'm certainly a whole lot clearer about how to play this feudal German army now. I am so glad that I asked.
Well that is what this forum is about. Ask and you will be as ignorant as before. Just joking.
Quote from: marshalney2000 on August 07, 2019, 09:33:42 PM
Quote from: Hunter on August 07, 2019, 09:30:17 PM
Well thanks for the advice lads, I'm certainly a whole lot clearer about how to play this feudal German army now. I am so glad that I asked.
Well that is what this forum is about. Ask and you will be as ignorant as before. Just joking.
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I dont know. I was pretty ignorant before .....
Here's hoping some serious information won't get in the way of our drivel but .....
I am planning to supply and to collect and deliver each rounds scores to Tim/Kevin. Each player will have his own score sheet and will be expected to fill it out correctly and keep track of his total and flag up any issues quickly so that they can be sorted.
Richard will be umpire. Players are expected to have had a go at sorting out any differences by the novel expedient of reading the relevant section in the rules before petitioning him. Any appropriate time will be added to Richards games if its a hard day at the umpiring office the above notwithstanding.
HH
..... Now back to the drivel .......
Hold the phone and the drivel ....
Players are also asked to help grow our game by sticking to Si's tidy table protocol with as little detritus on the table as possible.
Cheers Aye
HH
Now back to the drivel.....
Hunter, In the past players have been responsible for delivering their own results to the control team. Will it not delay the whole process if we pass them to you? After all your own game may go the distance which means no results can be computed until you pass them over. Appreciate your willingness to help but not sure this helps at all.
Quote from: marshalney2000 on August 07, 2019, 10:22:12 PM
Hunter, In the past players have been responsible for delivering their own results to the control team. Will it not delay the whole process if we pass them to you? After all your own game may go the distance which means no results can be computed until you pass them over. Appreciate your willingness to help but not sure this helps at all.
The powers going to his head!
Simon says "I have every confidence in Hunter making it through Friday as TO"
Quote from: marshalney2000 on August 07, 2019, 10:22:12 PM
Hunter, In the past players have been responsible for delivering their own results to the control team. Will it not delay the whole process if we pass them to you? After all your own game may go the distance which means no results can be computed until you pass them over. Appreciate your willingness to help but not sure this helps at all.
Didn't seem to be a problem in previous years when Alasdair was doing the collecting-up...
(Just sayin'...!) ;D ;)
Anyways, we'll do whatever we're asked to do... !
What sort of time are people anticipating getting there tomorrow?
Quote from: nikgaukroger on August 08, 2019, 08:01:49 AM
What sort of time are people anticipating getting there tomorrow?
Between 6 and 7.
HH
Quote from: marshalney2000 on August 07, 2019, 10:22:12 PM
Hunter, In the past players have been responsible for delivering their own results to the control team. Will it not delay the whole process if we pass them to you? After all your own game may go the distance which means no results can be computed until you pass them over. Appreciate your willingness to help but not sure this helps at all.
As Rayman observes I have no real mandate for this so I'm happy to serve what the majority wills.
Hi
had my first runout with the aragonese against Nik - great game very tactical until the blood stared flowing we called it after 3 hours with 8 - 6 to Nik lessons learnt looking forward to weekend of gaming
see ya all Friday
Sam
Sounds like blast. Lets hope all the games at the weekend are likewise.
Have a great time one and all.
Travel safely.
Si
I seem to have sent Hunter a work in progress version of my list (hence some troop name errors)
Does anyone object to me resubmitting with a slight change in the organisation of my Bondi and huscarls (moving from 9s to 8s)
Quote from: DracoStandard on August 08, 2019, 04:21:33 PM
I seem to have sent Hunter a work in progress version of my list (hence some troop name errors)
Does anyone object to me resubmitting with a slight change in the organisation of my Bondi and huscarls (moving from 9s to 8s)
I'm cool with that.
Doesn't make it any less boring though :o 8)
ptthhhhh
etc
whats so boring about it?
If you have to ask you wouldn't understand ;) ;) ;)
beyond my comprehension
Quote from: nikgaukroger on August 08, 2019, 04:28:24 PM
Quote from: DracoStandard on August 08, 2019, 04:21:33 PM
I seem to have sent Hunter a work in progress version of my list (hence some troop name errors)
Does anyone object to me resubmitting with a slight change in the organisation of my Bondi and huscarls (moving from 9s to 8s)
I'm cool with that.
Doesn't make it any less boring though :o 8)
I object. It's this kind of behaviour that ends in anarchy. You are single handedly ruining the UK tournament scene.
How very dare you!
I think Hunter should man up and eject you from the tournament.
;D
Who else wants to resubmit their list. Start the process again from scratch and give a Hunter something to do on the train to Manchester.
I was thinking of changing to a completely different army.
OK, Ill stick with the mistyped one, I am not trying to take the piss
...though there will be an increase in dodgy figures as the army I painted up is not the same as the list
Quote from: marshalney2000 on August 08, 2019, 05:26:23 PM
I was thinking of changing to a completely different army.
Understandable ;) ;D
shit, the list I sent is a bit bollox, it looks like i was in the middle of editing it and sent it in unfinished.
great
Quote from: DracoStandard on August 08, 2019, 06:25:43 PM
shit, the list I sent is a bit bollox, it looks like i was in the middle of editing it and sent it in unfinished.
great
You'll probably place now ;D ;D 8)
at this point I am tempted to withdraw rather than spend the weekend getting tonked because of a save error
Quote from: DracoStandard on August 08, 2019, 06:34:03 PM
at this point I am tempted to withdraw rather than spend the weekend getting tonked because of a save error
Please don't, we're even numbers at present :-[
Quote from: DracoStandard on August 08, 2019, 06:34:03 PM
at this point I am tempted to withdraw rather than spend the weekend getting tonked because of a save error
We can get tonked together as I am sure our armies are similar.
Quote from: nikgaukroger on August 08, 2019, 06:07:13 PM
Quote from: marshalney2000 on August 08, 2019, 05:26:23 PM
I was thinking of changing to a completely different army.
Understandable ;) ;D
Oh you had the same thought about yours.😄😄😄
Let him change
Let him change
Let him change
Man the barricades. Prime the muskets.
Cinders WILL go to the Ball
Quote from: marshalney2000 on August 08, 2019, 06:42:13 PM
Quote from: nikgaukroger on August 08, 2019, 06:07:13 PM
Quote from: marshalney2000 on August 08, 2019, 05:26:23 PM
I was thinking of changing to a completely different army.
Understandable ;) ;D
Oh you had the same thought about yours.😄😄😄
You could be right.
I'dgot my choice down to either Eddy IV or Ghaznavid. Went with the more sensible choice partly because I knew Pete Reilly was taking Ghaznavid - can't help feeling I'll regret it :(
Here is the list I was planning on using
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and here is the (technically illegal due to not enough bondi) list I sent in
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Quote from: marshalney2000 on August 08, 2019, 06:38:53 PM
We can get tonked together as I am sure our armies are similar.
except yours probably is one that you have used/intended to use / not a mid point stage of shuffling bases around to make viable tugs
I'd just repeat that I really am happy for Paul to tweak his list. I'm sure that if he discusses it with Hunter a sensible solution can be reached. I trust both and I'd rather that happened than Paul faces 6 games he may well hate it drop out.
If his list is illegal it has to be corrected with minimum change right? If not today it will have to be on the first round of the tournament.
So...
Pity I don't play war hammer 40k, space marines as alternative army could have been handy!!
See you all tmrw evening and safe trip !
Cheers
Legality isn't an issue here.
Quote from: DracoStandard on August 08, 2019, 04:21:33 PM
I seem to have sent Hunter a work in progress version of my list (hence some troop name errors)
Does anyone object to me resubmitting with a slight change in the organisation of my Bondi and huscarls (moving from 9s to 8s)
All depends on how many beers do you offer 8)
More honestly ... I support the change as it will make a better week-end for him and so help everyone have a nice week-end ;D
Quote from: Rino on August 08, 2019, 07:21:31 PM
If his list is illegal it has to be corrected with minimum change right? If not today it will have to be on the first round of the tournament.
So...
Pity I don't play war hammer 40k, space marines as alternative army could have been handy!!
See you all tmrw evening and safe trip !
Cheers
Marine Chapters got new stuff today
Dirty secret - even back in the hard core DBM days I allowed the odd case like this :o
Im cool with Paul changing after all its only toy soldiers - an honest mistake is an honest mistake
that is all!!
Sam
thanks, guys, I appreciate the support
also...not going to be an arse and drop out at the last minute...I need to escape from the madness here
Can I change. Fancy bringing Frisians 8)
Go to the Ball Paul! 💃🕺
On you go Robin. Hunter likes a challenge. In any case when you typed Frisian spell check changed it to Norman.
Quote from: DracoStandard on August 08, 2019, 06:59:02 PM
and here is the (technically illegal due to not enough bondi) list I sent in
Did Hunter not pick it up? He is usually very good on the detail.
Quote from: DracoStandard on August 08, 2019, 07:08:53 PM
Quote from: marshalney2000 on August 08, 2019, 06:38:53 PM
We can get tonked together as I am sure our armies are similar.
except yours probably is one that you have used/intended to use / not a mid point stage of shuffling bases around to make viable tugs
I think you give me too much credit. I think I had five different variants. After your experience, I had better check I sent the right one in!!
Hi folks
I'm just back from my lad's footie match to this and an email from Paul send at 1620 hours today.
Paul's list was received and approved on 1/8. There were some naming issues (Bondi in the name line but Best Bondi characteristics and costings or vice versa - I can't remember exactly) and the date was a couple of years out. I flagged these to Paul on 1/8 and approved the list as it was legal assuming that the naming just needed to be corrected.
I can't remember the list exactly but it is a significant change to go from TUGs of 9 to 8 if that's what Paul is suggesting in this thread and not one I would support at this stage. Sorry - I know its just a game but I took on the list checking responsibilities so I have to carry the weight of the job. If it was just me then Paul could do what he likes but it's not.
I think we may be out of time to engage with this properly though as I need to leave for Manchester at 0900 tomorrow..
HH
So ,,,,, I've asked Paul to bring a copy of the approved list and the one with the changes he wants to the basho tomorrow. I am sure that Paul, me and RJC can work something out. And now - I'm off to bed! Goodnight!
HH
Quote from: Hunter on August 08, 2019, 11:30:55 PM
So ,,,,, I've asked Paul to bring a copy of the approved list and the one with the changes he wants to the basho tomorrow. I am sure that Paul, me and RJC can work something out. And now - I'm off to bed! Goodnight!
HH
8)
Travel safe and roll well!!
Thanks Simon on behalf of all your MEG disciples. I am rolling on the way to Edinburgh on the way to Manchester. Sorry you can't be with us. You will be missed. Our revenge match will just have to wait till next year's Skulls. All the best. HH
Have a good trip Hunter.
Might set off soon myself, but as I'm only 40 mins away no rush ;)
Got to finish with the psych first... then assuming no one gets sectioned... to the train and toy soldiers
Quote from: DracoStandard on August 09, 2019, 11:46:10 AM
Got to finish with the psych first... then assuming no one gets sectioned... to the train and toy soldiers
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Don't sweat it Paul. It's only a blooming wargame matey. Let's get ready to stumble! I'm on a rather jam packed train from Edinburgh to Manchester - standing room only (unless you've booked cheap tickets in advance, whoop whoop!)
Hope the weather is better in Engerland!
HH
Mildly moist at present.
Just left Preston. Mildly moist outside and very moist inside. John West could learn from LNER. Still wargames all weekend so small price to pay.
So, what news?
Anybody?
Standings after 4 rounds
Position Name No Club 1 2 3 4 5 6 Total
1 Frédéric Dufour 43 France 15 12 15 15 57
2 John Munro 48 Perth 6 15 15 15 51
3 David Parish 42 Reigate 15 5 15 15 50
4 Jason Broomer 47 Reigate 15 15 15 4 49
5 Laurence Donohoe 50 Bournemouth 5 9 15 15 44
6 Paul Cummins 53 MKWS (Milton Keynes) 15 4 8 15 42
7 Hunter Hope 45 Perth 15 4 15 6 40
8 Serge Adeline 60 Other 15 6 15 2 38
9 Lance Flint 49 Farnborough 15 15 7 0 37
9 Richard Jeffrey-Cook 56 Farnborough 15 15 3 4 37
11 Sam Street 59 None 8 15 0 12 35
12 Roger Pitfield 58 Brussels 15 3 4 8 30
13 Nicholas Gaukroger 52 Reigate 6 6 15 2 29
13 Robin Spence 57 Bournemouth 15 6 4 4 29
15 Gilles Wielgosz 44 Immortels Paris Ouest 5 15 1 2 23
16 Stephen Stead 61 Reigate 12 2 4 4 22
17 Peter Reilly 54 Wirral 6 4 4 7 21
18 Adrian Pitfield 41 Brussels 4 2 6 8 20
18 Niall Taylor 51 Perth 8 4 2 6 20
18 Stewart Riddick 62 Perth 10 2 4 4 20
21 Jacques Wilputte 46 Belgium 8 4 4 2 18
21 Renaud Cordier 55 Immortels Paris Ouest 6 2 8 2 18
What has happened to Jacques and his panzer division???
I think the top 4 were:
John Munro 75
Jason Broomer 74
Frederic Dufour 73
Paul Cummins 72
Quote from: rayfredjohn on August 11, 2019, 09:57:25 AM
What has happened to Jacques and his panzer division???
Hiding in the Ardennes?
Massive thanks to everyone who was at Britcon and the organisers. Top weekend all round ;D ;D 8)
Mid-table mediocrity for the Edward IV army. About what I was expecting. Richard, Duke of Gloucester, did, however, beat King Richard III along the way :)
6 fun games with narry a cross word or rules argument. All felt very relaxed - although I'm sure it was a little tenser up at the top, but I never experienced those dizzy heights :P
So how did my predictions do.
Top 5
1. Jason Broomer
2. John Munro
3. Laurence Donohoe
4. Gilles Wielgosz
5 = Hunter Hope
5 = Nik Gaukroger
Dark Horse: Stephen Stead
Jason 2nd (lost by 1 point. Not tricky enough)
John 1st (Big up to the Scots)
Laurence 8th (that'll teach you to use my army list)
Giles 11th (I picked the wrong johnny foreigner)
Hunter 13th (crushed beneath the responsibility of delivering the score cards to the BHGS office)
Nik 11th ( I suspect the delights of Manchester got the better of him)
Stephen 15th don't know what happened here. A lot of very, very low scoring games by him and his opponents.
Honourable mentions to Paul Cummins, Sam Street and Dave Parish (you must send me your list)
And finally, Jacques and his Panzer Division. Last seen parked in the Ardennes, refusing to come out to fight.
TTFN
Ray
Position Name No Club 1 2 3 4 5 6 Total
1 John Munro 48 Perth 6 15 15 15 9 15 75
2 Jason Broomer 47 Reigate 15 15 15 4 15 10 74
3 Frédéric Dufour 43 France 15 12 15 15 4 12 73
4 Paul Cummins 53 MKWS (Milton Keynes) 15 4 8 15 15 15 72
5 Sam Street 59 None 8 15 0 12 15 15 65
6 David Parish 42 Reigate 15 5 15 15 8 6 64
7 Serge Adeline 60 Other 15 6 15 2 15 6 59
8 Lance Flint 49 Farnborough 15 15 7 0 4 15 56
8 Laurence Donohoe 50 Bournemouth 5 9 15 15 6 6 56
8 Richard Jeffrey-Cook 56 Farnborough 15 15 3 4 15 4 56
11 Gilles Wielgosz 44 Immortels Paris Ouest 5 15 1 2 15 12 50
11 Nicholas Gaukroger 52 Reigate 6 6 15 2 15 6 50
13 Hunter Hope 45 Perth 15 4 15 6 2 7 49
14 Roger Pitfield 58 Brussels 15 3 4 8 4 8 42
15 Peter Reilly 54 Wirral 6 4 4 7 4 12 37
15 Stephen Stead 61 Reigate 12 2 4 4 12 3 37
17 Renaud Cordier 55 Immortels Paris Ouest 6 2 8 2 15 2 35
17 Robin Spence 57 Bournemouth 15 6 4 4 4 2 35
19 Adrian Pitfield 41 Brussels 4 2 6 10 2 8 32
19 Jacques Wilputte 46 Belgium 8 4 4 2 12 2 32
19 Stewart Riddick 62 Perth 10 2 4 4 2 10 32
22 Niall Taylor 51 Perth 8 4 2 6 0 0 20
A great weekend, thanks to Hunter and RJC for organising stuff (providing pencils for filling in score sheets, who would have thought), 6 great games (thanks Sam, Jason, Hunter, Robin, Cid and Serge). Didn't quite manage the quickest game ever (tm) against Robin, but we both had a good go at it. My dice finally bounced back against Cid (actually more the cards crippled him at an opportune time)...and for the first time since the 2019 rules update, I managed to not play like a (complete) numpty. Though waving the flank of my huscarls at Jason's Almughavers was probably not my finest moment. And overall a place higher than Britcon last year. If I keep this up I may get into the medals.
Excellent weekend against six very good opponents with every game played in good spirits. Roll on 2020.
Looked great fun.
Sorry to have missed it but I'll be back next year.
Been progressing the new book over he weekend.
Coming along nicely.
Some lovely artwork in it.
Si
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Thanks everyone for a fun filled basho.
Well done to the worthy winners - a 6 game format is a true test in every way and it takes some doing to place on the podium.
HH
It does indeed.
Now everyone go to the players forum and check out the 2020 bits and pieces.
Si
Quote from: rayfredjohn on August 11, 2019, 10:33:01 PM
Quote from: marshalney2000 on August 11, 2019, 10:31:24 PM
Quote from: rayfredjohn on August 11, 2019, 09:57:25 AM
What has happened to Jacques and his panzer division???
Hiding in the Ardennes?
Searching for a fuel dump
Except for the first game, I always controlled the table, had my opponents fleeing ...all explained of the FB . To have some points, you need a battle. When denied a battle you get no points . That's it .
Quote from: badhabum on August 14, 2019, 07:40:30 PM
Quote from: rayfredjohn on August 11, 2019, 10:33:01 PM
Quote from: marshalney2000 on August 11, 2019, 10:31:24 PM
Quote from: rayfredjohn on August 11, 2019, 09:57:25 AM
What has happened to Jacques and his panzer division???
Hiding in the Ardennes?
Searching for a fuel dump
Except for the first game, I always controlled the table, had my opponents fleeing ...all explained of the FB . To have some points, you need a battle. When denied a battle you get no points . That's it .
Sometimes you do not want to be too scary!! Moderately frightening but look like they can be beaten is best for luring the enemy out.
That's one point of view. Aboither point was made by Jason. If he would have faced me, he would hacve tried for the flanks while pinning me frontally. I was expecting that but no one did try . One blocked his own army with a big forest just in the middle. So I managed to outmaneuver him and it was 12-2 ...a game, a battle and fun. Without the forest he had choosen, he would have taken my army on the flanks ...