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Title: Lurkio late Romans
Post by: nikgaukroger on March 18, 2020, 03:11:29 PM
Lurkio are about to release a new range of late Romans - which will also be in plastic via PSC. Simon kindly send me some pre-release samples of the legionarii so I painted tham.

(https://i.imgur.com/eMUAbQe.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/dtOFDSI.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/WvUAedc.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/wJVnDcA.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/EMxlLUC.jpg)
Title: Re: Lurkio late Romans
Post by: WillR on March 18, 2020, 05:56:30 PM
Nice work.
Title: Re: Lurkio late Romans
Post by: Lanceflint on March 18, 2020, 07:39:37 PM
I was going to put in an order to legion heroica, but I think these will do!
Title: Re: Lurkio late Romans
Post by: nikgaukroger on March 18, 2020, 08:02:37 PM
Quote from: Lanceflint on March 18, 2020, 07:39:37 PM
I was going to put in an order to legion heroica, but I think these will do!

You know how, at the weekend, I said how much I liked the Legio Heroica figures - having finished these I think I now like these more  ;D

Simon Hall tells me the full range has the cavalry to go with the infantry as well  8)
Title: Re: Lurkio late Romans
Post by: Rino on March 18, 2020, 10:44:21 PM
How do they mix with legio heroica in terms of size?
Title: Re: Lurkio late Romans
Post by: nikgaukroger on March 19, 2020, 06:50:36 AM
Pretty much the same height, a little slimmer in look and the shields are a little smaller.
Title: Re: Lurkio late Romans
Post by: PUNCH on March 19, 2020, 06:56:48 AM
Quote from: nikgaukroger on March 19, 2020, 06:50:36 AM
Pretty much the same height, a little slimmer in look and the shields are a little smaller.

Hi Nik,

are they mixable with the essex miniatures late roman range ?

Best regards.

Gilles
Title: Re: Lurkio late Romans
Post by: nikgaukroger on March 19, 2020, 08:05:19 AM
No, they are noticeably taller.

Sell the Essex figures and replace with the Lurkio ones IMO, they are much better  ;D
Title: Re: Lurkio late Romans
Post by: nikgaukroger on March 19, 2020, 04:11:45 PM
Quick pics to compare them to Legio Heroica.

(https://i.imgur.com/CSPJpxQ.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/SVRsQN6.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/0DY0KaP.jpg)
Title: Re: Lurkio late Romans
Post by: PUNCH on March 19, 2020, 06:13:59 PM
Quote from: nikgaukroger on March 19, 2020, 08:05:19 AM
No, they are noticeably taller.

Sell the Essex figures and replace with the Lurkio ones IMO, they are much better  ;D

Thanks a lot for your help, I will keep my essex minis ( my prefered dealer of lead ) and use the lurkio in different units.

I will sell the 3 plastic roman boxes I pre-ordered and buy the lead figures , just find the sculpting Great! stunning!

I'm a lead addict ;-)
a sample of my Celtae Seniores below
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-H82g_OVBk2I/UJAu7rbo5KI/AAAAAAAAAyM/SYaYYskOWoQ/s1600/1celtae+seniores+1.jpg)
Title: Re: Lurkio late Romans
Post by: nikgaukroger on March 19, 2020, 06:30:51 PM
Quote from: PUNCH on March 19, 2020, 06:13:59 PM
Thanks a lot for your help, I will keep my essex minis ( my prefered dealer of lead ) and use the lurkio in different units.

Fair enough  :)


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I will sell the 3 plastic roman boxes I pre-ordered and buy the lead figures , just find the sculpting Great! stunning!

FWIW the plastic Romans use the same masters as the metals I believe so should look identical. I have 2 boxes on order.

Like the Celtae BTW  8)
Title: Re: Lurkio late Romans
Post by: nikgaukroger on April 21, 2020, 09:49:36 PM
First unit of the rebuilding of my C4th CE Roman army using the recently released Lurkio late Roman figures is done. This is the Secunda Britannica legio from the Notitia Dignitatum using LBMS shield transfers.

Includes a base with a simple conversion to legionarii armed with heavy clubs for fighting catafracts as described for battles under Constantine I and Constantius II. Archer marker for if the unit has the Integral Shooters characteristic.

Seven more of these to do  ;D

(https://i.imgur.com/K7sPAZh.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/fgRAptV.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/N76gjOM.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/RnnKoOl.jpg)
Title: Re: Lurkio late Romans
Post by: mad lemmey on April 21, 2020, 11:47:00 PM
Very nice Nik, always a popular unit.
Title: Re: Lurkio late Romans
Post by: nikgaukroger on April 25, 2020, 10:48:39 PM
Legio Quinta Macedonica joins my C4th Roman army. Figures are Lurkio with LBMS shield transfers as usual - one of the few they do from the eastern section of the Notitia Dignitatum.

(https://i.imgur.com/gbHVcwT.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/Em8xGc7.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/VezOqYf.jpg)
Title: Re: Lurkio late Romans
Post by: nikgaukroger on April 27, 2020, 11:16:02 AM
Completed a camp for the C4th Romans. Manned by men from the Anglevarii auxilia as I had some spare LBMS shield transfers lying around  :)

Fortifications and tent from Baueda.

(https://i.imgur.com/q8Nk05S.jpg)
Title: Re: Lurkio late Romans
Post by: PUNCH on April 27, 2020, 06:49:42 PM
nice paintwork Nick!
Title: Re: Lurkio late Romans
Post by: nikgaukroger on April 29, 2020, 09:31:08 AM
Third infantry unit for the MeG C4th Romans finished this morning. Lurkio figures and LBMS transfers. Unit is the Leones auxilia - the pattern is the Iuniores unit in the Notitia but may in fact be the Seniores see http://lukeuedasarson.com/NDleonesIuniores.html

(https://i.imgur.com/E031Xdn.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/DHaX871.jpg)
Title: Re: Lurkio late Romans
Post by: PUNCH on April 29, 2020, 04:29:27 PM
well done Nick!

I must do some of them.

take care.

PUNCH
Title: Re: Lurkio late Romans
Post by: nikgaukroger on May 01, 2020, 04:47:52 PM
Generals bases for the MeG Romans. A mixture of Lurkio, Donnington and Legio Heroica figures with shield transfers from LBMS as ever. The faces on the vexilla were punched out of a couple of Leones shield transfers left over from when I did that unit.

(https://i.imgur.com/iPakWfG.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/XPpwYK5.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/0PwWx8X.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/vCXXp8C.jpg)
Title: Re: Lurkio late Romans
Post by: nikgaukroger on May 05, 2020, 05:51:45 PM
Been reading more than painting in the last few days, but the auxilia of the Celtae have now joined the MeG Roman army.

(https://i.imgur.com/rXdtKDQ.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/P1bO4Vh.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/jGYgTVg.jpg)

As usual the figures are Lurkio and the shield transfers are LBMS.
Title: Re: Lurkio late Romans
Post by: nikgaukroger on May 09, 2020, 09:00:13 PM
Back to C4th Romans. Having done the Celtae it is pretty much compulsory to then do the Petulantes auxilia unit - and not just because there is a LBMS shield transfer for them  ;D  So here they are. More Lurkio 15mm.

(https://i.imgur.com/XYiRjO7.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/cNwllYY.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/amdseVK.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/gxNy5eS.jpg)
Title: Re: Lurkio late Romans
Post by: nikgaukroger on May 12, 2020, 07:30:54 AM
Getting towards the end of the C4th Roman infantry now with the Herculiani legio. The usual Lurkio 15mm figures with LBMS transfers. Not my favourite shield design but as I am going with the transfers I'm limited by what is available - painting them myself isn't on the agenda  :P

(https://i.imgur.com/S4zasMI.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/5xTcPJA.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/v7MlNfz.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/TVX8xh5.jpg)
Title: Re: Lurkio late Romans
Post by: PUNCH on May 12, 2020, 10:25:25 PM
Nice unit Nick!

well done!
Title: Re: Lurkio late Romans
Post by: nikgaukroger on May 15, 2020, 08:47:46 PM
7th and penultimate legio/auxilia for the C4th MeG Romans; this one is the Ioviani legio. More 15mm Lurkio figures with LBMS shield transfers. Might just get the last one done over the weekend.

(https://i.imgur.com/dfELyfA.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/DchPWE2.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/qt1tAnV.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/g3ld4SZ.jpg)
Title: Re: Lurkio late Romans
Post by: nikgaukroger on May 17, 2020, 05:58:56 PM
The 8th and last legio/auxilia for the C4th Romans is done. This is the "not from the Notitia one" to be used as an elite/guard legio. I tried to paint the shields with the Lanciarii pattern, but I wasn't pleased with how that worked so back to transfers  ;D

(https://i.imgur.com/07uEpFu.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/wSf3WR2.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/viZUNS9.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/l6CkZWq.jpg)
Title: Re: Lurkio late Romans
Post by: mad lemmey on May 19, 2020, 11:58:45 PM
Top mate
Title: Re: Lurkio late Romans
Post by: nikgaukroger on June 11, 2020, 08:52:44 AM
OK, there aren't Lurkio figures but they are for the army which is mainly Lurkio infantry  8)

Cavalry figures from Khurasan this time - with sword in hand and some with javelins held behind the shield they are a bit different from the usual poses you get with 15mm figures IMO. LBMS shield transfer is for the Equites Honoriani iuniores; actually this is too late for my army as mine is for the mid-C4th so units named for Honorius are anachronistic, however, one is limited by the transfers available.


(https://i.imgur.com/IrW5BNz.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/MUVHugH.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/Io4jIvI.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/GRkjySP.jpg)
Title: Re: Lurkio late Romans
Post by: nikgaukroger on June 14, 2020, 03:28:45 PM
Second unit of 15mm Khurasan cavalry for the C4th Roman army. LBMS shield transfers, these are from the western Magister Officiorum in the Notitia and it is suggested that they might be of one of the Scholae units.

(https://i.imgur.com/97Oh5e8.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/sKaTh23.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/bvCk6DJ.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/h1pqTbf.jpg)
Title: Re: Lurkio late Romans
Post by: nikgaukroger on July 05, 2020, 01:37:07 PM
Actual face to face gaming (distanced) is now happening so painting stuff has slowed to a crawl. However, here are some Alans and a camp for my later C5th western Romans. Figures are mostly Donnington from their old range - still good figs IMO  :)

(https://i.imgur.com/y3r7TAq.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/zVcs8fr.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/cFaTOq5.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/jUULMmw.jpg)
Title: Re: Lurkio late Romans
Post by: Cyrus on July 06, 2020, 02:25:53 AM
Really impressive 4th and 5th century Roman armies Nik. The Donnington Alans are excellent too. Do you have any idea of what their Blemmye are like? I've ordered some of the Forged in Battle figures and was wondering how they'd mix.
Title: Re: Lurkio late Romans
Post by: nikgaukroger on July 06, 2020, 07:31:27 AM
Quote from: Cyrus on July 06, 2020, 02:25:53 AM
Really impressive 4th and 5th century Roman armies Nik. The Donnington Alans are excellent too. Do you have any idea of what their Blemmye are like? I've ordered some of the Forged in Battle figures and was wondering how they'd mix.

No idea I'm afraid - although size-wise I'd expect them to mix OK.
Title: Re: Lurkio late Romans
Post by: Cyrus on July 07, 2020, 12:18:10 AM
No worries, thanks for that.
Title: Re: Lurkio late Romans
Post by: nikgaukroger on July 22, 2020, 09:32:27 AM
A third cavalry unit for my C4th Romans. 15mm Khurasan Miniatures figures with LBMS shield transfers - these are the Equites Mauri Feroces. Based as flexible cavalry which allows them to be formed up or skirmishers - one of the really nice mechanisms in MeG  :)

(https://i.imgur.com/enrLjVO.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/nWzeOEv.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/aG0HYAB.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/mJ1YyTJ.jpg)
Title: Re: Lurkio late Romans
Post by: mad lemmey on July 22, 2020, 09:39:30 AM
Nice Nik
Title: Re: Lurkio late Romans
Post by: nikgaukroger on October 29, 2020, 02:22:07 PM
Currently going through the "to paint" pile and sorting out additions/options for existing armies. These are some skirmishers and another legionarii unit for my C5th Romans.

(https://i.imgur.com/vVBxWU9.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/y6vIJcB.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/T9uTCZh.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/GmrWkEz.jpg)
Title: Re: Lurkio late Romans
Post by: Plantagenet on October 31, 2020, 10:48:06 AM
Really nice units Nik, for some reason I've always restricted my Roman interests to Republican and Early Imperial but the visual appeal of these has peaked my interest for sure, plus of course, the LIR have always been the army with the greatest variety of units and tactical flexibility. 

Any reason at all while you've gone for Khurasan vs Forged in Battle? FiB seem very popular these days and I have a bunch or their Norman Knights as a bolt on for my mostly Legio Heroica Crusaders.  FiB have expanded now to cover the LIR too with their Dark Ages III update to their ancients line, not looked at them closely though.

Must admit too I'm seriously considering binning DBMM from my list of rules to cover with regards to basing flexibility.  I've not really got any interest in playing them at all (albeit a couple of folks in these parts still do) so it's very much a 'just in case' consideration.  I was never keen on the 15mm narrow bases tipping over all the time and, most of all, I do like the idea of basing in 4s and 3s as markers for Flexible troops (or 3 and 2 for cavalry) and keeping markers off the table, reduces the figure count too, albeit only marginally.  The other rules that I need to retain the flexibility to play are basing agnostic where figure count and base depth are concerned (or at least I'm 90% certain they are, need to do a quick double check before breaking out PVA / Super Glue) so it's something I may well opt to do.  I like the idea of the single based archer for an integral marker too, had kinda got fixated on the need to place a Skirmish bow stand behind each file, of course, not necessary at all.
Title: Re: Lurkio late Romans
Post by: nikgaukroger on October 31, 2020, 02:38:38 PM
Quote from: Mars on October 31, 2020, 10:48:06 AM
Any reason at all while you've gone for Khurasan vs Forged in Battle? FiB seem very popular these days and I have a bunch or their Norman Knights as a bolt on for my mostly Legio Heroica Crusaders.  FiB have expanded now to cover the LIR too with their Dark Ages III update to their ancients line, not looked at them closely though.

My C4th and C5th Romans are a mixture of manufacturers. The infantry is Lurkio and PSC, the cavalry is Khurasan for the Equites/Illyricani, FiB for catafracts and horse archers, Donnington for ALans and PSC for Huns and Goths. Basically went with the figures I thought were best for the various different troops.

In respect of the FiB range specifically I think the infantry are not as good as the Lurkio/PSC ones and especially the poses, likewise I preferred the Khurasan equites. I did get horse archers from their Late Roman range as I liked them in the pileus hat and used catafracts from their Palmyran range as well (prefer them to the ones in the Roman range).
Title: Re: Lurkio late Romans
Post by: nikgaukroger on December 14, 2020, 08:36:55 AM
Some 15mm Lurkio Huns to be used as a bucellarii unit in my MeG C5th Roman army.

(https://i.imgur.com/9MFnc3E.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/aKPmjSP.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/X3ihtzr.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/v7m88WV.jpg)
Title: Re: Lurkio late Romans
Post by: nikgaukroger on February 14, 2021, 04:27:20 PM
Was a bit unhappy with the Forged in Battle catafracts I had for my C4th CE Romans so took the opportunity of replacing them with Khurasan Miniatures ones when I ordered the Mongol figures for use as my Khitans. The FiB ones went to the slave market which provided the funds and contributed to the Khitans which was nice  :) Definitely think these are nicer; however, still have niggles but don't think there are any currently available in 15mm that I prefer, so they'll be fine until somebody does some I think are better  8)

(https://i.imgur.com/iw5MmKM.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/TQG0axo.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/q3IOlr1.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/7HmqYCG.jpg)
Title: Re: Lurkio late Romans
Post by: LorenzoMele on February 14, 2021, 05:15:35 PM
Nice Alans Nick.
I recognize also sarnaticed goth figures.
From what range come the miniature with plumed helm and small round shield? Seems a Byzantine by equipment,
Rgds
Lorenzo
Title: Re: Lurkio late Romans
Post by: nikgaukroger on February 14, 2021, 06:02:27 PM
That one is actually one of the PSC Imperial Roman catafract cavalry somewhat adapted. They come with a large oval shield :o which I cut away and used a small round shield to hide the damage, then removed the spear they are cast with and gave them a longer wire spear passing through both hands (that the plastic bends was helpful here). Bit of a botch really but they go OK in the unit.
Title: Re: Lurkio late Romans
Post by: PUNCH on February 14, 2021, 11:08:02 PM
Quote from: nikgaukroger on February 14, 2021, 06:02:27 PM
That one is actually one of the PSC Imperial Roman catafract cavalry somewhat adapted. They come with a large oval shield :o which I cut away and used a small round shield to hide the damage, then removed the spear they are cast with and gave them a longer wire spear passing through both hands (that the plastic bends was helpful here). Bit of a botch really but they go OK in the unit.

Hi Nik,

Nice paintwork! and thanks for the tip, I'll try to do on the TUG of cataphracts in preparation.

Kind regards.

Gilles